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In my opinion, the US has a better quality of life FOR ME. Universally, Canada has a better quality of life, because it offers better health benefits, the cops don't suck like the US, less gun issues, and a better straightened governent.
US quality is better only for me though. It offers various climates and has better climates than Canada, the scenery is gorgeous, it doesn't snow a foot of snow all the time like Canada gets, the US culture is just more fun except I don't support gun rights (I'm sorry).
With the possible exception of parts of Quebec, I have found the QOL better when I have been in Canada
One must consider that included within Canada's tax rates the full medical benefits, from cradle to grave, of every single Canadian of a healthcare plan that includes; no "in/out of network" restrictions" or requirements. no deductibles, no co-pays, no third party non-medical trained interventions(denials) of payments, no delaying of treatment due to requirement for additional information from patient and compare those features to an insurance premium demanded to obtain parallel coverage in the U.S.
How many thousands of dollars if it were even available, would that type of coverage cost in the U.S.?
Wait times so far have been addressed only by anecdotal evidence and my contribution would be my most recent example of a senior citizen in the same over 55 community as I winter in here in Lakeland being told he will have to wait for an appointment with a neurologist to consult on a severe and debilitating collapsed disk and damaged vertebrae (ex paratrooper) related back pain he has been treated for since he arrived here in October, until mid April.
The man cannot sleep and is prescribed pain killers. That is just one of legions of stories I have available to recount over years of wintering in the U.S. for over 5 months of each and every year since 2004 and for weeks of every winter for 5 years before that. It is mind-numbing indeed to even entertain the nonsense we read on here of wait times and comparing those with being entirely denied pre-emptive healthcare for millions of Americans, being denied a treatment plan for an aggressive cancer due to some formality of not having seen a specialist that was networked approved, being denied the opportunity to attend regular doctor's visits due to the costs, being denied the early detection of medical problems because of considerations of cost, being denied due to insurance company finding you left out informing them you once smoked for a few years or previously had been treated for back pain.
How many of those who were denied above or simply could not afford the costs show up in any stats related to unnecessary deaths?
People who attempt to equate the rare occurrence of a delay in Canada to what is a very common occurrence happening daily in the U.S. to untold thousands of it's citizens are either deluded or adhering to some other agenda.
While I have no desire to live in Canada as I prefer warmer climates and am accustomed to US ways and systems, I always enjoy visiting our neighbor to the north.
In certain border areas, communities on the Canadian side seem a lot tidier and more prosperous than the adjoining American places - some examples would be along the St. Lawrence River on the Ontario/New York border. Far northern New York is a rather overlooked and economically stagnant part of the Northeast US, while southeast Ontario consists of fertile countryside close to both the nation's capital and largest city. I don't think this dynamic is necessarily applicable to all US/Canada border areas, of course.
This hasn't been my experience with healthcare in the US at all. I may complain about the cost of insurance (I do complain about that) but at least I have options rather than XXX amount of taxes taken out (much more than we pay now, and more than my current healthcare costs anyway) with fewer choices and longer wait times. But to each his or her own.
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I'd say that regardless of locale, your personal happiness depends on, well, your personal happiness or lack thereof.
No matter where we live, we take ourselves with us.
I agree! Until the world crashes in and forces you to care about money.
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