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Old 11-22-2018, 12:14 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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Glad, at least, that you are impressed with yourself. And, seriously, you don't know that California has water restrictions?
I live here, and there are no water restrictions as we speak. It's currently snowing in the Sierra's right now so our water supply is already replenishing for next year. I will admit having the best climate in country comes at a moist cost. lol Wouldn't trade it for anything though.
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Old 11-22-2018, 05:53 AM
 
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I live here, and there are no water restrictions as we speak. It's currently snowing in the Sierra's right now so our water supply is already replenishing for next year. I will admit having the best climate in country comes at a moist cost. lol Wouldn't trade it for anything though.
Well, if you don't have them now, look at what happens in 2022....just over 3 years away.

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Old 11-22-2018, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Why would you want that? Increased cost of living and less wildlife areas and state parks, what's the draw of 15 million people in a state like Minnesota???
I think some people look at population statistics like sports scores, you have to win the numbers game to feel good. It's how we've conditioned ourselves in the USA, we've lost our ability to argue quality, instead focusing on quantity. The Great Lakes area has a very high quality factor IMO, but it is overshadowed by not so great population growth. But its definitely not for everyone, like surfer-dude in San Diego or Venture Capitalist in NYC/San Jose.
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Old 11-22-2018, 07:59 AM
 
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You talk about it as if quality and quantity are mutually exclusive when they are not. Aside from Minnesota, which is the fastest growing in the region, and maybe Indiana, all the Great Lake states have their fair share of problems. I would not say any of the other states there have a quality of life universally better than in high growth Texas, Washington, or Arizona.
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Old 11-22-2018, 12:36 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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You talk about it as if quality and quantity are mutually exclusive when they are not. Aside from Minnesota, which is the fastest growing in the region, and maybe Indiana, all the Great Lake states have their fair share of problems. I would not say any of the other states there have a quality of life universally better than in high growth Texas, Washington, or Arizona.
Exactly my point was people don't move to a place for a worse quality of life they move for a better one. High population growth coincided with the fact that many find particular areas appealing. There are great places all over the country, but when people have to decide they usually pick a better place.
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Mishawaka, Indiana
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You talk about it as if quality and quantity are mutually exclusive when they are not. Aside from Minnesota, which is the fastest growing in the region, and maybe Indiana, all the Great Lake states have their fair share of problems. I would not say any of the other states there have a quality of life universally better than in high growth Texas, Washington, or Arizona.
They all have lower cost of living than the states you mentioned. I can't see Texas Washington or Arizona having an all around higher quality of living than the Midwest states either.
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Old 11-22-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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They all have lower cost of living than the states you mentioned. I can't see Texas Washington or Arizona having an all around higher quality of living than the Midwest states either.
There are only six Great Lakes states, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan. Their cost of living are not that off from Texas', lower in some sources, higher in others. And no source lists all of them as cheaper than Texas. Argument can be made that large cities, such as Chicago, skew the numbes, but thats true for all states, or at least the ones in question. I guess you could throw in New York and Pennsylvania, but that doesn't help your case.
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Old 11-22-2018, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Floribama
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Exactly my point was people don't move to a place for a worse quality of life they move for a better one. High population growth coincided with the fact that many find particular areas appealing. There are great places all over the country, but when people have to decide they usually pick a better place.
The problem is people tend to all want to move to the same places, then ten years later they say “it’s getting crowded here, I want to move”.
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Old 11-22-2018, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Atlanta & Savannah, GA - Corpus Christi, TX
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There are only six Great Lakes states, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan. Their cost of living are not that off from Texas', lower in some sources, higher in others. And no source lists all of them as cheaper than Texas. Argument can be made that large cities, such as Chicago, skew the numbes, but thats true for all states, or at least the ones in question. I guess you could throw in New York and Pennsylvania, but that doesn't help your case.
You also left out Ohio. That is definitely a Great Lake state.
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Old 11-22-2018, 06:57 PM
 
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You also left out Ohio. That is definitely a Great Lake state.
I forgot it when I named the states, but that was the sixth state.
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