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Old 11-05-2018, 09:50 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I am 20 years old and an IT major and I am considering moving to a small metro area out West (as mentioned in my last post). Now, I want to hear a final comparison between the small metro areas I mentioned. Yakima vs Bend vs Reno vs Albuquerque.

Things I want:

1. Jobs - IT jobs that pay at least $50K to live. I am not planning on having kids at all and I only need a small house.

2. Climate - 2 to 3 inches of snow is no big deal. I don't mind cold weather in the West, because I heard it's not damp/humid to feel extremely cold like what we get in NJ. I am not even going to ask about summer humidity, because no where in the West gets humid in the summer. I assume New Mexico probably has the best climate.

3. Beautiful/dramatic Scenery - Which one has the most beautiful/dramatic scenery? All the places I mentioned are deserts. No places with tons of land that is flat as a pancake please haha.

4. Outdoor activities - I love the outdoors such as hiking and camping. I need access to outdoor activities where the scenery is beautiful and dramatic.

5. Has a lot of people my own age group - Which place has a lot of people my age group that will live there forever? I don't want to feel "outgrown" of the place I live, because "it's a college town". Also, I don't want to live somewhere where there are too many retirees. NJ has a lot of retirees. I took AZ (where the less hot climates are) off my list, because of that.
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Old 11-05-2018, 12:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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There is an edit in this post:

I am 20 years old and an IT major and I am considering moving to a small metro area out West (as mentioned in my last post). Now, I want to hear a final comparison between the small metro areas I mentioned. Yakima vs Bend vs Reno vs Albuquerque vs Redding (EDIT).

Things I want:

1. Jobs - IT jobs that pay at least $50K to live. I am not planning on having kids at all and I only need a small house.

2. Climate - 2 to 3 inches of snow is no big deal. I don't mind cold weather in the West, because I heard it's not damp/humid to feel extremely cold like what we get in NJ. I am not even going to ask about summer humidity, because no where in the West gets humid in the summer. I assume New Mexico probably has the best climate.

3. Beautiful/dramatic Scenery - Which one has the most beautiful/dramatic scenery? All the places I mentioned are deserts. No places with tons of land that is flat as a pancake please haha.

4. Outdoor activities - I love the outdoors such as hiking and camping. I need access to outdoor activities where the scenery is beautiful and dramatic.

5. Has a lot of people my own age group - Which place has a lot of people my age group that will live there forever? I don't want to feel "outgrown" of the place I live, because "it's a college town". Also, I don't want to live somewhere where there are too many retirees. NJ has a lot of retirees. I took AZ (where the less hot climates are) off my list, because of that.
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Old 11-05-2018, 01:19 PM
 
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Yakima is based on an agricultural economy -- grapes/wine, apples, hops, etc. It's basically like California's central valley. Lots of mountains but extremely dry except where it's irrigated. Seattle is a different universe maybe 2.5 hours away by car. There's not much tech.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Albuquerque is way bigger than the other three and Reno is much bigger than the other two.

Alb and Reno are big enough that there is probably a pretty large contingent of young professionals and blue collar 20 and 30 somethings. The other two probably have a lot less of either. Bend seems to be considered a really nice place and Yakima not so much (heresay). I'd think they all fit the other things you listed but Alb for sure has the best year round climate.

If it were me, I might look at Boise as it is similar to Reno and Alb.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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I am 20 years old and an IT major and I am considering moving to a small metro area out West (as mentioned in my last post). Now, I want to hear a final comparison between the small metro areas I mentioned. Yakima vs Bend vs Reno vs Albuquerque.

Things I want:

1. Jobs - IT jobs that pay at least $50K to live. I am not planning on having kids at all and I only need a small house.

2. Climate - 2 to 3 inches of snow is no big deal. I don't mind cold weather in the West, because I heard it's not damp/humid to feel extremely cold like what we get in NJ. I am not even going to ask about summer humidity, because no where in the West gets humid in the summer. I assume New Mexico probably has the best climate.

3. Beautiful/dramatic Scenery - Which one has the most beautiful/dramatic scenery? All the places I mentioned are deserts. No places with tons of land that is flat as a pancake please haha.

4. Outdoor activities - I love the outdoors such as hiking and camping. I need access to outdoor activities where the scenery is beautiful and dramatic.

5. Has a lot of people my own age group - Which place has a lot of people my age group that will live there forever? I don't want to feel "outgrown" of the place I live, because "it's a college town". Also, I don't want to live somewhere where there are too many retirees. NJ has a lot of retirees. I took AZ (where the less hot climates are) off my list, because of that.
Yakima is the worst city in Washington....I would go to Tri Cities instead if you want this area.

Reno probably hits all the areas you listed, especially if you go a bit to the west.

Bend ticks all the boxes but is small and isn't cheap. You better have your job in hand before going to Bend.

Albuquerque probably hits your criteria but again lower salaries and limited opportunities.

As another person mentioned, you should look at Boise which I think is a great little city.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:53 PM
 
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In this other thread the OP created What is it like to live in a smaller metro area out West?

and in this post http://www.city-data.com/forum/53552864-post8.html, the OP said being in a city with a large Hispanic population is desired. The Hispanic population in Idaho makes up over 12% of the states population. Within the Boise MSA (estimated population of 710,000) , there are nearly 95,000 Hispanics and growing. Of interest to the OP is the Boise-Mountain Home-Ontario CSA has an estimated population of 790,363. Boise has a large young professional population and is a youthful city. It outgrew being a "college town" years ago.

There is also a noticeable Indian population as many are hired by the high tech companies in town. The international refugee population is large for a city Boise's size because so many are placed there to acclimate to the American way of life and to be surrounded by accepting and gracious people. There are dozens of ethnic markets in the Boise area so if one is looking for food and goods from around the world it is rather easy to find in Boise these days.

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Old 11-05-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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Yakima is about half Hispanic.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:29 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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One of Albuquerque's relative strengths in the job market is IT. There aren't many huge companies here, but Sandia Labs and KAFB contract a lot with smaller, local tech companies.

It is worth looking into, anyway. There is definitely dramatic scenery right in the city, especially the farther east in town (closer to the Sandia Mountains) you live.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:44 PM
 
Location: .N6 A4
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Yakima is the worst city in Washington....I would go to Tri Cities instead if you want this area.

Reno probably hits all the areas you listed, especially if you go a bit to the west.

Bend ticks all the boxes but is small and isn't cheap. You better have your job in hand before going to Bend.

Albuquerque probably hits your criteria but again lower salaries and limited opportunities.

As another person mentioned, you should look at Boise which I think is a great little city.
Boise is quite nice but it has a higher cost of living than Albuquerque or Yakima (and probably Reno as well--though I'm less sure about Bend). I've read the salaries in Boise aren't matching the rising cost of living, but I haven't looked at that closely.

Edit: actually Boise COL appears to be lower than Reno's.
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Old 11-16-2018, 07:47 PM
 
Location: .N6 A4
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There is also a noticeable Indian population as many are hired by the high tech companies in town.
Probably driving IT wages down.
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