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Old 12-03-2018, 12:33 AM
 
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Even in the tiny rural religious towns I've lived in, in the North Carolina/North Georgia mountains, I've been asked what church I go to one time in 17 years.

I said I didn't go to church and the subject never came up again. I wasn't being judged. The lady was simply going to offer an invitation to her church if I was so inclined as a way of being welcoming. She wasn't the least put off by my answer.

I am not Christian and it's not an issue. This area is strongly "live and let live". The mountain culture considers it extremely offensive to interfere with how other people live.
Id rep you on both of your last two comments if I could.
I grea up in South Georgia and my parents live there now after living in the Atlanta area.They simply prefer the way of life.Only time I get asked about chrrch is by people that go to my parents church wandering where Ive been.
It simply doesnyt even happen that much in smaller areas either but you will see more people going to church than you will in any other region.

To your previous post.You are so correct about blacks needing a connection to something they feel they can relate to.
This is true for all cultures but the African American experience is more complex than even mot black people realize. That is mainly true from blacks not being in contriol of the narrative about who we are.
When Blacks see there are places where control of sme level is possible,we go to those places.
Places like Atlanta,Charlotte,D.C.,Houston, and even in small metro like Columbus GA wnere there is one of the highest percentages of black owned businesses.
https://money.cnn.com/2015/02/23/sma...gia/index.html
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:40 AM
 
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Nobody is suggesting for people to change anything. If the question is where one prefers to live and one decides one over the other citing as a reason that the other place is too religious (asking about what church one goes to as an example) then that is just that, a reason. Why would you take that as demanding or wanting to change the behavior?

You took and continue to take offense to people who have a problem with being asked about what church they are going. Again for you it should not be considered a big deal for others it is something they prefer not to happen and that is why they prefer other regions. What is so difficult to understand in that?



Also it is not about what I see as problematic as the only here who seems upset about this is you. You can't seem to accept that not everyone shares your opinion on what is friendly, nosey and what should be considered what or what is a viable and good reason.

Whether I stay put or where I would go, is of course up to me and as opposed to you I can appreciate and accept other POV's and opinions so I can, could and have easily adjusted in the south when down there. Which has nothing to do with what region I would prefer. Which is the topic which I'm still not sure you quite understand despite your claims.
i have a problem with people who claim to be so open minded and liberal but when it comes to religion they get defensive and judgmental.
Im not a religious person at all but I see the same anti religion nastiness in liberal leaning so called progressives as I do in religious zealots condemning everyone to Hell who doesnt believe a certain way
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:02 AM
 
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To make this a fair comparison we should first define the regions and try to make it of a similar land area. Now lets just limit the PNW to WA and OR. ID is usually included but it's kind of far removed from the coastal states.

PNW
Washington: 66,455.52 sq mi | 7,405,743 people
Oregon: 95,988.01 sq mi | 4,142,776 people
Total: 162,443.53 sq mi | 11,548,519 people

metropolitan areas
>6,400,000 (0)
---------------------
>3,200,000 (1)
Seattle, WA: 3,867,046
>1,600,000 (1)
Portland, OR: 2,453,168
>800,000 (0)
-----------
>400,000 (2)
Spokane, WA: 564,236
Salem, OR: 424,982
>200,000 (7)
Eugene, OR: 374,748
Kennewick, WA: 290,296
Olympia, WA: 280,588
Bremerton, WA: 266,414
Yakima, WA: 250,193
Bellingham, WA: 221,404
Medford, OR: 217,479
>100,000 (5)
Bend, OR: 186,875
Mount Vernon, WA: 125,619
Albany, OR: 125,047
Wenatchee, WA: 118,478
Longview, WA: 106,910
>50,000 (3)
Corvallis, OR: 90,951
Grants Pass, OR: 86,352
Walla Walla, WA: 64,614

SE
North Carolina: 48,617.91 sq mi | 10,273,419 people
South Carolina: 30,060.70 sq mi | 5,024,369 people
Georgia: 57,513.49 sq mi | 10,429,379 people
Total: 133,192.10 sq mi | 25,727,167 people

Metropolitan Areas
>6,400,000 (0)
---------------------
>3,200,000 (1)
Atlanta, GA: 5,884,736
>1,600,000 (1)
Charlotte, NC: 2,525,305
>800,000 (3)
Raleigh, NC: 1,335,079
Greenville, SC: 895,923
Columbia, SC: 825,033
>400,000 (7)
Charleston, SC: 775,831
Greensborough, NC: 761,184
Winston, NC: 667,733
Augusta, GA: 600,151
Durham, NC: 567,428
Myrtle Beach, SC: 464,165
Ashville, NC: 456,145
>200,000 (10)
Savannah, GA: 387,543
Fayetteville, NC: 386,662
Hickory, NC: 366,534
Spartanburg, SC: 334,391
Columbus, GA: 303,811
Wilmington, NC: 288,156
Macon, GA: 228,914
Hilton Head Island, SC: 215,302
Athens, GA: 209,271
Florence, SC: 205,831
>100,000 (10)
Gainesville, GA: 199,335
Jacksonville, NC: 193,893
Warner Robins, GA: 191,779
Greenville, NC: 179,042
Burlington, NC: 162,391
Valdosta, GA: 145,437
Dalton, GA: 144,440
New Bern, NC: 124,864
Goldsboro, NC: 124,172
Brunswick, GA: 118,119
>50,000 (2)
Rome, GA: 97,613
Hinesville, GA: 80,400
You forgot Florida
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Old 12-03-2018, 01:28 AM
 
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The Southeast, I get the cascade are taller but southeast does have the Appalachians. Any more lives in Atlanta to Charlotte are 2 to 3 hours away from this.


https://www.visitsmokies.org/wp-cont...ake.jpg?x22634
Also more historical cities

http://www.pandatrot.com/wp-content/...0112097799.jpg
Larger and more diverse cities,

https://www.ajc.com/rf/image_inline/...als-ba-004.jpg
Florida is in the Southeast.

https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/me...rfax-hotel.jpg
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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i have a problem with people who claim to be so open minded and liberal but when it comes to religion they get defensive and judgmental.
Im not a religious person at all but I see the same anti religion nastiness in liberal leaning so called progressives as I do in religious zealots condemning everyone to Hell who doesnt believe a certain way

Liberals, religious zealots, progressives is not what this is about. We are merely talking about preferences and some of the reasons those preferences exist for some people.
As a matter of fact the only person who got judgemental and, by your admission, seem to have a problem with the preference of other locations over the south is you.
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Old 12-03-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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I'd rep you on both of your last two comments if I could.

I grew up in South Georgia and my parents live there now after living in the Atlanta area. They simply prefer the way of life. Only time I get asked about church is by people that go to my parent's church wondering where Ive been.

It simply doesn't even happen that much in smaller areas either but you will see more people going to church than you will in any other region.

To your previous post. You are so correct about blacks needing a connection to something they feel they can relate to.

This is true for all cultures but the African American experience is more complex than even most black people realize. That is mainly true from blacks not being in control of the narrative about who we are.


When Blacks see there are places where control of some level is possible, we go to those places. Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, D.C., Houston, and even in small metro like Columbus GA where there is one of the highest percentages of black owned businesses.

https://money.cnn.com/2015/02/23/sma...gia/index.html
Thank you! I had forgotten that I wrote it until today when I thought to catch up on the thread.

You know, I lived in Dallas, Texas for a long time, and I never saw the level of success for blacks there in general compared to Atlanta. Granted, there are more blacks in Atlanta, but there is a vibe in Atlanta that feels like success is more accessible there.

It's a drive from the mountains, but I went to the Mall of Georgia a few years ago, which is a long way northeast of Atlanta, and at least half the patrons in the mall were black and you could tell they were doing well in life - they were all extremely well-dressed, confident, and poised.

I really don't think people who are unfamiliar with the area realize this. And there is nothing like witnessing this "taken for granted" black success to make you think, "Damn, why isn't it like this everywhere?"

Speaking of Charlotte, I worked with a black lady in Dallas that used to live in Charlotte. Not sure why she moved to Texas, but she loved Charlotte. Charlotte is very nice. It must be the cleanest downtown in the whole country.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:00 AM
 
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Liberals, religious zealots, progressives is not what this is about. We are merely talking about preferences and some of the reasons those preferences exist for some people.
As a matter of fact the only person who got judgemental and, by your admission, seem to have a problem with the preference of other locations over the south is you.
Still waiting on that quote where I said this.Otherwise stop being so disingenuous
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:04 AM
 
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As another poser pointed out,there is so much more to do and see in the Southeast.All I have heard is people speaking about is the PNW being beautiful which is true but the Southeast is as beautiful also but its actually more varied and diverse topography.
You have so many varied types of cities and architecture.
More historical and cultural offerings by far.
The PNW just doesnt have enough to hold my attention


Sea Island GA


Asheville NC


Cumberland Island National Seashore


Helen GA


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Old 12-06-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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As another poser pointed out,there is so much more to do and see in the Southeast.All I have heard is people speaking about is the PNW being beautiful which is true but the Southeast is as beautiful also but its actually more varied and diverse topography.
You have so many varied types of cities and architecture.
More historical and cultural offerings by far.
The PNW just doesnt have enough to hold my attention
That's nice and all but you also house numerous states that perform the worst or very near the bottom in almost every metric possible. So, from a quality of life standpoint.... no.
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Old 12-06-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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That's nice and all but you also house numerous states that perform the worst or very near the bottom in almost every metric possible. So, from a quality of life standpoint.... no.
LOL
yep it is all well and good,haha
That should tell you everything about REALITY.
And YET the Southeast is STILL growing much faster than any state in the PNW.So quality of life or not,it only matters to those who want plain and simple.Nothing wrong with that but life for many people cannot be determined by whats on a list.
I guess it matters to people like you and CD but not in the real world so much

What is the PNW known for internationally or Nationally?
Adversity breeds creativity>Every well known civilization in the world came out of adversity.No one remembers places with little to no history or adversity.

Take for example New Orleans.People love that city and would move there many tomes over more places with better amenities even though its got high crime and poverty

I personally would be miserable in the PNW and my quality of life would be worse.
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