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Old 11-17-2018, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Yes, by 1999, Governor and the state declared that the whole area is now downtown.
No - the state never did that. I don't know why the state would get involved with doing that. The city, when talking about downtown, includes these areas as do most locals with a clue. The fact that it is a "2nd downtown" is completely laughable. It's all considered part of the greater downtown area for anybody who has lived in Chicago recently and wasn't under a rock.
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Old 11-17-2018, 11:55 PM
 
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That's hysterical. What conceivable purpose could a governor have to do that?! Is he going to decide the definition of purple next?

I'm always amazed at the things that people thing governments do.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:47 AM
 
Location: BMORE!
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What about Port Covington?
There's nothing there yet at the moment. I think that they're still trying to figure out what they're gonna do with the place. One minute it's Under Armour, the next minute its "Silicon Valley East," the minute after, it's both. I think the only thing there at the moment is a fancy tavern own by Kevin Planck's Development company.

When complete it could be downtown 4.0.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:55 AM
 
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That's hysterical. What conceivable purpose could a governor have to do that?! Is he going to decide the definition of purple next?

I'm always amazed at the things that people thing governments do.
Not officially but verbally acknowledged in early 2000's.
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Old 11-18-2018, 12:58 AM
 
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No - the state never did that. I don't know why the state would get involved with doing that. The city, when talking about downtown, includes these areas as do most locals with a clue. The fact that it is a "2nd downtown" is completely laughable. It's all considered part of the greater downtown area for anybody who has lived in Chicago recently and wasn't under a rock.
They just verbally acknowledged. Anyway, I'm not too crazy about Downtown Chicago since it's not all that exciting or dynamic to go over it. Sorry to break it to you: Philly, SF, Portland and others have more exciting downtowns that are really doing everything right.
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:11 AM
 
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This is what I've been experienced from the local people back in the 70's and up to 90's. Before? I didn't go to Chicago. I've been going to this city since the mid 70's. This whole idea of Downtown Chi town including Streeterville and Gold Coast is just recent years as area beyond Loop became more dense relatively. yes, it's downtown 2.0: extended area from downtown
I think you would’ve been hard-pressed to find an era in which Union station, Merchandise Mart and the John Hancock building weren’t considered downtown.
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:16 AM
 
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Downtown includes Lake Shore Drive East and Loop. Any places else: not downtown. So, yes, this is not part of Downtown Chicago( N. of the river) in the pictures.
You must be older then me...... and that would be old and truly outdated to see the NEIGHBORHOOD also, of the Loop (with the primary business district) ...... being alone downtown.

I can see you disagreeing with Donald Trump that his Trump Tower Chicago.... is not in downtown Chicago. He would call that ----Fake News.

There were threads in the past that had non-locals argue that Old Town isn't downtown or even including just a small part of the Gold Coast as too residential. Yet some cities have oldest residential neighborhoods grandfathered into its downtown core like just by proximity and always was just seen as that. Like Philly. I don't disagree.... just saying. Yet you argue this basically 1/2 of downtown Chicago today with the Near North neighborhoods between Old Town/Gold Coast as not part?

Seems no local will buy into the idea its a downtown 2.0 either. It just evolved as a extension to be fully assimilated into one downtown. Big push was Big John (formally known as John Hancock Center) built in the late 60s. Continued emergence its première shopping region with even its vertical mall built by Big John in 1971. Still going strong today luring tourist and of course ..... many of the city's top hotels with the nightlife even in River North today.

The Loop still is emerging as a live-in new and old repurposed skyscrapers area. But still the largest concentration of office space ..... outside of Manhattan. That still will effect the number of residentser sq/mile and 3-parks and into Lake Michigan, for its residential population. Still managing tops outside of Manhattan with Philly's that always was highly residential. Chicago's was not at all ..... till 30+ years ago now. It emerged with a high live-in population to today.

But it doesn't compare to San José in vibrancy of NYC and even Philly for you. You prefer. Both Chicago and Philly deserve their high regard of their cores. A choice there is understandable. Just some might disagree with mighty San José up there too...... But every city deserves their emergence of renewed core-life and residents there.

All downtown Chicago today .... as one.
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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They just verbally acknowledged. Anyway, I'm not too crazy about Downtown Chicago since it's not all that exciting or dynamic to go over it. Sorry to break it to you: Philly, SF, Portland and others have more exciting downtowns that are really doing everything right.
LOL...okay. Philly, SF, Portland. I don't agree with that at all, but that's your opinion. None of this has absolutely anything to do with what we are talking about anyway in downtown 2.0. . So, congratulations?
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:41 AM
 
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Milwaukee's Third Ward...within a couple blocks of downtown, and vastly popular for shopping. It has West Elm, Anthropologie, and Restoration Hardware.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Chicago's real downtown: Loop, that is. River North/Mag. Miles just an extended urban district from Loop. The city and state officials begin coining the term "Downtown" of the whole area from Mc Cormick convention center to Lincoln Park in the 90's. It sure so wasn't downtown north of Chicago's river. It was Near North. South of Congress: Near South Side. River North is not downtown 2.0, just another urban district with its own entity, at least was planned that way.
sure. anything you say.
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