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Old 11-16-2018, 07:50 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Again, there is no neighborhood, no body of water separating downtown from midtown.
'SoNo' is the neighborhood separating them, and the Connector is a very clear delineator between them (as has already been stated).

https://www.myajc.com/news/state--re...A0tphsBVMSObI/

The break between them is very clear from a visual standpoint.

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Old 11-16-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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'SoNo' is the neighborhood separating them, and the Connector is a very clear delineator between them (as has already been stated).

https://www.myajc.com/news/state--re...A0tphsBVMSObI/

The break between them is very clear from a visual standpoint.
The same could be said for the Chicago or Miami rivers delineating the berders between the Loop and River North, or Downtown Miami and Brickell. In reality, all three cities have a "Greater Downtown" that includes adjacent neighborhoods, that once were considered something other than downtown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoNo,_Atlanta

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SoNo (South of North Avenue) is a sub-district of downtown Atlanta, Georgia, just south of Midtown. The area was defined and named by Central Atlanta Progress in 2005 in order to better establish an identity for the area and give it a hipper image, although Atlanta natives have never given credence to the name of the neighborhood.[1] SoNo refers to the area of Downtown bounded by North Avenue on the north, Central Park Place on the east and the Downtown Connector (Interstate-75/85) on the west and south.[2]
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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I say ... let Atlantan's have their separated CBC's instead of boasting Downtown and Midtown complement each other for ONE EMERGING Core. They like to separate them fully. Guess it depends on the thread topic too. I'd rather boast of a fully integrated Downtown emerging. Something that a Houston cannot do as their 3 are much more fully separated by miles.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:17 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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I say ... let Atlantan's have their separated CBC's instead of boasting Downtown and Midtown complement each other for ONE EMERGING Core. They like to separate them fully. Guess it depends on the thread topic too. I'd rather boast of a fully integrated Downtown emerging. Something that a Houston cannot do as their 3 are much more fully separated by miles.
Thanks for the permission.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Seminole County, FL
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I say ... let Atlantan's have their separated CBC's instead of boasting Downtown and Midtown complement each other for ONE EMERGING Core. They like to separate them fully. Guess it depends on the thread topic too. I'd rather boast of a fully integrated Downtown emerging. Something that a Houston cannot do as their 3 are much more fully separated by miles.
...I'm not from Atlanta. At all. And I agree that if the two were considered one, it would be better and more cohesive. But they are not.

And what of Buckhead? What would that be considered, then?

This is not the same as Downtown Miami and Brickell. Brickell is clearly an extension of the old downtown, and doesn't come off as an entirely different area.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:49 AM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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The same could be said for the Chicago or Miami rivers delineating the berders between the Loop and River North, or Downtown Miami and Brickell. In reality, all three cities have a "Greater Downtown" that includes adjacent neighborhoods, that once were considered something other than downtown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoNo,_Atlanta
Yes, it could, which is why those cities consider them to be separate districts.
When I lived in Miami, I don't recall anyone referring to Brickell as downtown. It is and always been considered a separate entity.
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Old 11-16-2018, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I say ... let Atlantan's have their separated CBC's instead of boasting Downtown and Midtown complement each other for ONE EMERGING Core. They like to separate them fully. Guess it depends on the thread topic too. I'd rather boast of a fully integrated Downtown emerging. Something that a Houston cannot do as their 3 are much more fully separated by miles.
If Midtown continues to build up Midtown as they are doing now, do not sell Houston short of downtown being connected to the TMC.
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Old 11-16-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Yes, it could, which is why those cities consider them to be separate districts.
When I lived in Miami, I don't recall anyone referring to Brickell as downtown. It is and always been considered a separate entity.
People these days still don't consider Brickell as part of downtown Miami. I still have my place in Brickell and every time people ask where it is, I say downtown, they ask where and I say Brickell and they reply "that's not downtown". So even today after all the development and connectivity, people still consider Brickell as a separate entity as you said.
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Old 11-16-2018, 03:46 PM
 
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People these days still don't consider Brickell as part of downtown Miami. I still have my place in Brickell and every time people ask where it is, I say downtown, they ask where and I say Brickell and they reply "that's not downtown". So even today after all the development and connectivity, people still consider Brickell as a separate entity as you said.
I understand that Brickell is historically a separate neighborhood, but itís literally the financial district. Anyone arguing that itís not downtown is being EXTREMELY pedantic.
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Old 11-16-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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I understand that Brickell is historically a separate neighborhood, but itís literally the financial district. Anyone arguing that itís not downtown is being EXTREMELY pedantic.
Exactly, it IS a part of downtown and it's the financial district, yet a lot of people in Miami still consider it it's own neighbourhood apart from downtown. We can all agree that this is 100% not true and it still doesn't make sense to me that people still think this.
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