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Old 11-13-2018, 09:22 PM
 
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Cities with downtown 2.0: a city's downtown whose expansion included a whole new area like former warehouses/huge land areas where the area is developed into second downtown:

1. Portland: Pearl District
2. Seattle: Lake Union/Denny Triangle
3. San Diego: East Village/Petco Park
4. SF: East Cut/Ricon Hill
5. Denver: Lower Downtown/Union station
6. Minneapolis: East Downtown(work in progress)
7. Philly: Center City East
8. Baltimore: Inner East Harbor
9. Dallas: Uptown
10.Chicago: River North

Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Cities with downtown 2.0: a city's downtown whose expansion included a whole new area like former warehouses/huge land areas where the area is developed into second downtown:

1. Portland: Pearl District
2. Seattle: Lake Union/Denny Triangle
3. San Diego: East Village/Petco Park
4. SF: East Cut/Ricon Hill
5. Denver: Lower Downtown/Union station
6. Minneapolis: East Downtown(work in progress)
7. Philly: Center City East
8. Baltimore: Inner East Harbor
9. Dallas: Uptown
10.Chicago: River North

Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
DC - Arlington, Tysons
NYC - Midtown
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Old 11-13-2018, 09:54 PM
 
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Cities with downtown 2.0: a city's downtown whose expansion included a whole new area like former warehouses/huge land areas where the area is developed into second downtown:

1. Portland: Pearl District
2. Seattle: Lake Union/Denny Triangle
3. San Diego: East Village/Petco Park
4. SF: East Cut/Ricon Hill
5. Denver: Lower Downtown/Union station
6. Minneapolis: East Downtown(work in progress)
7. Philly: Center City East
8. Baltimore: Inner East Harbor
9. Dallas: Uptown
10.Chicago: River North

Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
If you're going to say Uptown for Dallas, then Midtown Atlanta and Uptown Houston should count.

And what is Center City East in Philly? Are you talking about University City?
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Old 11-13-2018, 10:34 PM
 
Location: St Simons Island, GA
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Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
What? If there is any city where that is not the case, it's Atlanta. In fact, it has a Downtown 3.0 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midtown_Atlanta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckhead
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Philly
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Cities with downtown 2.0: a city's downtown whose expansion included a whole new area like former warehouses/huge land areas where the area is developed into second downtown:

1. Portland: Pearl District
2. Seattle: Lake Union/Denny Triangle
3. San Diego: East Village/Petco Park
4. SF: East Cut/Ricon Hill
5. Denver: Lower Downtown/Union station
6. Minneapolis: East Downtown(work in progress)
7. Philly: Center City East
8. Baltimore: Inner East Harbor
9. Dallas: Uptown
10.Chicago: River North

Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
Philly’s “Downtown 2.0” would be University City, not “Center City East” (the section of the city that includes Chinatown, Old City, Society Hill, Washington Square West, etc.). One thing to understand about Philly is that business has historically moved west over time. “Center City East” was the original CBD, as the city started at the Delaware River and developed towards the Schuylkill. South Broad and Market West became additional downtowns after Market East, and now development has jumped across the Schuylkill River.

The central part of University City (the UC Science Center) is filling up with new office space. On the western edge (west of 40th Street), new midrises are slated to rise along Market Street. On the eastern edge (between 34th Street and the Schuylkill), West Philadelphia’s tallest building, FMC Tower, completely dominates everything around it. This will change once Schuylkill Yards and the 30th Street Station District Plan really kick into high gear. In the future, the area around Broad and Lehigh in North Philly will also likely be a new “downtown.”
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:07 AM
 
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Cities with downtown 2.0: a city's downtown whose expansion included a whole new area like former warehouses/huge land areas where the area is developed into second downtown:

1. Portland: Pearl District
2. Seattle: Lake Union/Denny Triangle
3. San Diego: East Village/Petco Park
4. SF: East Cut/Ricon Hill
5. Denver: Lower Downtown/Union station
6. Minneapolis: East Downtown(work in progress)
7. Philly: Center City East
8. Baltimore: Inner East Harbor
9. Dallas: Uptown
10.Chicago: River North

Some cities like San Jose, Houston, Phoenix, Indianapolis, Detroit, Atlanta and others have only main downtown cores.
First of all, Atlanta has probably the most successful "downtown 2.0" in the United States, but you completely disregarded it (Midtown).

Second, in the 1920's, General Motors sought to create a 2nd business/entertainment/shopping district in Detroit, called the "New Center", 2.5 miles north of downtown Detroit. When the Great Depression hit, development in the district petered out, but it may have been the 1st large-scale "downtown 2.0" outside of NYC. It had a few skyscrapers, an ornate Broadway theater, and even a (real) Saks Fifth Avenue (not the outlet).

Google Map Streetview of the New Center

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Old 11-14-2018, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Terramaria
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Washington, DC's would be the Navy Yard area, which did include some warehouses and industry. NoMa is a close second as well (also had some warehouses and light industry), but is really connected to the main downtown at its southern end. This also spills over into Buzzard Point, where the new D.C. United stadium is set to open in a few months. That said, back in the '60s and '70s, "New Downtown" in DC usually referred to what's referred to nowadays as the Golden Triangle section of town (sort of like Philly's Market West area, but with a buzzcut on the buildings), which is seamlessly connected to the original downtown nowadays. I sort of think of that as "downtown 1.1". A few other neighborhoods like Georgetown, Columbia Heights, and Friendship Heights have their own "mini-downtowns" as well, in addition to others having "Main street" type centers of action.

I don't consider DC suburbs to be "downtown 2.0", even some like Roslyn that are right across from the city line. They're just edge cities.

I'd say Los Angeles idea of a "downtown 2.0" is quite a bit more complex, but I'd say that the Mid-Wilshire corridor is the best example, but it wasn't a classical example that was former industrial land and I think of it as Atlanta, Seoul, and New York mashed together. It's separated from the main downtown by Westlake in between it, and has one (soon to be two) heavy transit lines, and like Detroit's New Center, took off in the 1920s, but it's steadily continued to develop since then. The funny thing is that a lot of LA's industrial areas are still quite industrial, but it is/was more of a warehouse city than a factory city. Then a district like Century City would be a "downtown 3.0" with its 1960s-era planning and development over part of the original Fox studio, of which one portion still stands today for its Searchlight subsidy. But of course, L.A. is so complex that most tourists would see Hollywood as its "downtown 2.0", not to mention all of its other mini-downtowns.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Cleveland has University Circle a few miles east of downtown.
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Old 11-14-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Most of the “Downtown 2.0” examples listed are part of a greater downtown. There is nothing separating them from downtown proper.

Pittsburgh’s Oakland neighborhood is a legitimate second downtown.
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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What? If there is any city where that is not the case, it's Atlanta. In fact, it has a Downtown 3.0 as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midtown_Atlanta

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckhead



I was about to say. I'm not a huge fan of Atlanta, but some of these posters really need to get out more.
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