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Old 11-27-2018, 04:30 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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Not so fast, Northeasterners in my experience do this more than southerners. Northeasterners live in a bubbled, charmed existence in which every place outside of the Northeast is alien and privy to whatever regional designation Northeasterners say they are...
Show us on the doll where the Northeast touched you...
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Old 11-27-2018, 04:35 PM
 
Location: STL area
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I just call myself a Midwesterner I suppose. I donít really refer to myself much wrt to my exact location. Iím not a southerner, but I donít live in the northern Midwest either. The Midwest is a big place.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:22 PM
 
Location: IN
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The discussion is not where they ARE, but what they CALL themselves (see OP's title of thread ).
Most people who are natives of Missouri don't consider themselves northerners, but they will often claim they are from the Midwest.
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Old 11-27-2018, 06:24 PM
 
Location: IN
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I just call myself a Midwesterner I suppose. I donít really refer to myself much wrt to my exact location. Iím not a southerner, but I donít live in the northern Midwest either. The Midwest is a big place.
The Midwest is a large region, but the vast majority is certainly northern. St. Louis is kind of a Midwest island surrounded by other rural areas that are more southern influenced for certain. Whereas, if you are in other areas of the region it is 100% Midwest and mostly northern- that is a big difference overall.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:23 AM
 
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I dont. As mentioned by some...Northerner is not really a regional identity. Its more a term used by Southerners.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Northerners are those from both the Midwest and the Northeast, i.e. the Union states during the Civil War (minus Oregon and California, which are Western states).
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The Northeast and the Midwest are collectively the northern United states.

Some far flung corners of the Midwest do drift so far south that they are reasonably more southern; The extreme south of Illinois, the bootheel/Ozarks of Missouri, and perhaps even the southwest corner of Indiana. Those areas are distinctly more southern than, say, 20 miles further north.

However, it is very important to acknowledge that those areas are the exception, not the rule, and are brought on by odd state borders. Overall the Midwest is the larger portion of the north. In fact, if this country were not so obsessed with the east coast, Midwestern culture would likely be seen as the standard for northern American culture.

Geographically the Midwest reaches even further north than the Northeast. New York's northern most point only reaches as far as southern Minnesota (around Minneapolis) and roughly central South Dakota. Minnesota and North Dakota beat out even Maine in northward reach.

If I were to travel in a direct crow-flies line from upstate NY's southern tier, I would find myself passing through Iowa and landing in Nebraska.

As some may point out, in Ohio the Midwest contains a small portion of Appalachia. It is also important to acknowledge that the Appalachians and their variety of cultures therein are not exclusively southern. Arguably, the greater portion of the mountain range is located in the north and Canada (including all geological relations).

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Old 11-28-2018, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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As an addendum to my previous post; I am from New York and I don't directly call myself a northerner either. Though I acknowledge that I am, in fact, from the north, my choice of regional identity is tied much more to my local experiences.

I am from the Alleghenies. I am an upstater (New Yorker more referring to NYC folk IMO). I am a Twintiersman. I am Appalachian. I am American. Or sometimes I refer to myself as Elmiran (closest well known city) in certain conversations.

I am more likely to call myself northern only in reference to the Appalachian mountains.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:36 PM
 
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Still fightin' the "War Between the States".
There is a bit of truth to this. I grew up in Wisconsin and never heard anyone refer to themselves as Northerners. Everyone just said they're from Wisconsin or maybe the Midwest. I do think there's more consciousness surrounding the Civil War in the South and non-Southern states like PA where battles were actually fought, which solidifies the use of the terms Northern and Southern in vernacular. We learned about the Civil War in school, sure, but it wasn't made out to be as big of a deal as it is in the South. Like, I rarely ever gave it a thought until I traveled to the South, it just seemed like something long ago and mostly forgotten in WI. How much the average American might think about the War of 1812 is about how much thought I gave to the Civil War growing up.
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Old 11-29-2018, 06:10 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Northerners are those from both the Midwest and the Northeast, i.e. the Union states during the Civil War (minus Oregon and California, which are Western states).
True but the northeast and midwest are classified as two distinct regions whereas the South streachs from the bottom half of the east coast to Texas. A person from NC is in the region as someone from Louisiana despite being hundreds of miles apart whereas New York and Ohio are in different regions despite both being in the North.
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