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Old 11-30-2018, 08:05 AM
 
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St Louis is a midwestern city but because it's in Missouri it's considered an outlier because Missouri is has a lot of southern influence and was considered apart of the south prior to the civil war. Not saying, St Louis, is a southern city but when your city is a few hours away from Memphis and rapper Nelly has a song called country grammar it gives people this perception of St Louis being country. I didn't realize how far north STL was till recently I always thought it pretty far south for a midwestern city like bordering TN south.
It's a little further north than Louisville
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I can't recall more than one or two times I've ever heard "yankee" used as a pejorative. Where exactly in the South are you guys hearing this?
Alabama
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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St Louis is a midwestern city but because it's in Missouri it's considered an outlier because Missouri is has a lot of southern influence and was considered apart of the south prior to the civil war. Not saying, St Louis, is a southern city but when your city is a few hours away from Memphis and rapper Nelly has a song called country grammar it gives people this perception of St Louis being country. I didn't realize how far north STL was till recently I always thought it pretty far south for a midwestern city like bordering TN south.
The Midwest is country as hell. At least a good chunk of it is.

StL/Missouri certainly have Southern influences, but are still more Midwestern than Southern.
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Old 11-30-2018, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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The Midwest is country as hell.
Truth be told? Every region is. Yes, even New England.

America prides itself on its rural and small town image. That's why so many of us default to that element being "true America".

Every state has a country element, although Connecticut and Rhode Island have been losing theirs to sub division expansion (of an unaffordable variety) for years; trust me, I've met people from those areas who are sharply unhappy about that.

I still recall and laugh at how mad some folks I knew in Louisiana were when I kept out-countrying them. These two wanted to believe all Yankees were waspy flappy-wristed cubicle jockeys. Being from NY I not only challenged this notion, but I exposed THEIR facades too. haha
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Old 11-30-2018, 03:26 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Truth be told? Every region is. Yes, even New England.

America prides itself on its rural and small town image. That's why so many of us default to that element being "true America".

Every state has a country element, although Connecticut and Rhode Island have been losing theirs to sub division expansion (of an unaffordable variety) for years; trust me, I've met people from those areas who are sharply unhappy about that.

I still recall and laugh at how mad some folks I knew in Louisiana were when I kept out-countrying them. These two wanted to believe all Yankees were waspy flappy-wristed cubicle jockeys. Being from NY I not only challenged this notion, but I exposed THEIR facades too. haha
Lol true. Every state has a rural element to it even NJ (the densest state in the union) has a lot of small town charm.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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ILol true. Every state has a rural element to it even NJ (the densest state in the union) has a lot of small town charm.
I think what a lot of people misunderstand about high population density is that it also mean there's a lot of rural/wilderness between these densely packed cities.

New Jersey is a good example of that (including north Jersey). So are NY and Massachusetts.

Whereas down south a lot of cities kind of sprawl and crawl for miles and miles (the city centers end abruptly but then you realize how many sub divisions are hiding in the woods). Ultimately you have cities with a smaller feel, but also it takes longer to get away from humanity.

Of course there are exceptions, Mississippi has a lot of empty space. But in general states with denser urban cores have larger tracts of rural land.

Likewise, anywhere super-hilly or mountainous sort of pushes its people into denser towns by nature.
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Old 12-02-2018, 06:11 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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This is the video I was talking about in reference to Ohio vs Georgia. https://youtu.be/0l_Z79MSIdI
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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I dont. As mentioned by some...Northerner is not really a regional identity. Its more a term used by Southerners.
Ditto. I don’t call myself a “northerner.” Southerners call me a northerner.

And I think it’s a funny thing because I’m originally from the south.
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Old 12-02-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I can't recall more than one or two times I've ever heard "yankee" used as a pejorative. Where exactly in the South are you guys hearing this?
Rural areas of Virginia and North Carolina
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Old 12-02-2018, 01:24 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Ditto. I donít call myself a ďnortherner.Ē Southerners call me a northerner.

And I think itís a funny thing because Iím originally from the south.
That's probably the biggest difference the south and the north is that being a southerner is regional term while being a northerner is just a label. People in the northeast do acknowledge the north label since the regional term is the northeast and it's the northern half of the east coast. Same can be said about the Pacific NW but no one refers to those states as the north. The South as a regional term is pretty much used all throughout the US and people all over the US pretty much refer to anything from VA to TX as the South whereas with the north it's two separate regions in one. That's why I like using region-specific terms to avoid geographic confusion.
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