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Old 12-11-2018, 01:50 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I think it's ridiculous to use Bojangles as an example of what's Southern. Bojangles is clearly geared towards the African American Community considering almost all of them are in PG county with none in Montgomery or Fairfax. If we're using food options which I admit is a bit entertaining, we can look at Pret A Manger as well as they only have locations in mostly what's considered the NE/Mid-Atlantic (New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Delaware, DC + Chicago) and there are 10 locations in DC alone or perhaps a place like La Colombe which are only found in the same locations as Pret A Manger + California and - Delaware.

With that said, is it plausible to say that the African American population in the DC area showcases "Southerness" more so then the other population groups? I don't see it within the White/Asian/Hispanic population at all.

I always enjoyed the Pop vs Coke vs Soda maps.

https://www.vox.com/a/explain-food-america

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/soda-vs-pop_n_2103764
It's about cosmopolitanism, just as much as it is about actual geographic north/south or whatever. No companies I know of just separate northern and southern. Most are broken up in to 7 or 8 regions or more nationwide, or if they are on one side of the country still break up into 3 or 4. Pret-A-Manger you will find in cosmopolitan metropolises, not really in mid size or even larger Southern American metro areas.

I've noticed the Midwest often aligns with what you find down South, Kroger as another example. I think many companies have the biggest grasp of on what regional pull means, and they align the locations of their businesses so.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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It's about cosmopolitanism, just as much as it is about actual geographic north/south or whatever. No companies I know of just separate northern and southern. Most are broken up in to 7 or 8 regions or more nationwide, or if they are on one side of the country still break up into 3 or 4. Pret-A-Manger you will find in cosmopolitan metropolises, not really in mid size or even larger Southern American metro areas.

I've noticed the Midwest often aligns with what you find down South, Kroger as another example. I think many companies have the biggest grasp of on what regional pull means, and they align the locations of their businesses so.
come on now... You get it, I get it... I just didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. It's almost always East Coast (DC - Boston) + West Coast + Chicago.. Although both Pret and La Colombe seemed to have skipped Baltimore.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:15 PM
 
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It's a few Piggly Wiggly stores in the midwest.
I have worked for different food companies for many years (all major names), and have called on Piggly Wiggly stores in Wisconsin for a long time. There are many.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:18 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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come on now... You get it, I get it... I just didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
You and I agree.
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Old 12-11-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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SC isn't too far behind them and I can believe it. It wasn't until I first viewed this map several years ago that I discovered that some people refer to all soft drinks as coke. Growing up in rural SC (between Columbia and Charleston), I never heard of such; we call them sodas.

Same here. Also grew up in rural SC, (between Florence and Myrtle Beach) and Ive never heard anyone refer to soda as anything but soda.
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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While Virginia is a Southern state it is also a Mid-atlantic state that shares cultural ties to Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, Deleware, etc. The Mid Atlantic area does not have to label itself as being North or South because it is geographically fluid and does not have strict border binaries and we have the right to identify our area as we choose it to be!

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Old 12-11-2018, 08:23 PM
 
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While Virginia is a Southern state it is also a Mid-atlantic state that shares cultural ties to Maryland, Pennsylvania, New York, Deleware, etc. The Mid Atlantic area does not have to label itself as being North or South because it is geographically fluid and does not have strict border binaries and we have the right to identify our area as we choose it to be!
PA and NY (and NJ) really are Northern though and have that as a primary identity. DE and MD are states that seem to embrace the mid-Atlantic label as a primary identity. VA seems to identify a little more as Southern from my perspective.
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Old 12-11-2018, 08:28 PM
 
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PA and NY (and NJ) really are Northern though and have that as a primary identity. DE and MD are states that seem to embrace the mid-Atlantic label as a primary identity. VA seems to identify a little more as Southern from my perspective.
It really depends on where in Virginia you're standing when doing the asking. If you were anywhere just south of Richmond you'd probably get most folks identifying as Southerners. OTOH if you were in NOVA which houses a much larger chunk of Virginians, you'd probably get very very few and the very very few who do are probably baby boomers or probably moved there from the South.

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Old 12-11-2018, 09:03 PM
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It really depends on where in Virginia you're standing when doing the asking. If you were anywhere just south of Richmond you'd probably get most folks identifying as Southerners. OTOH if you were in NOVA which houses a much larger chunk of Virginians, you'd probably get very very few and the very very few who do are probably baby boomers or probably moved there from the South.
That makes a ton of sense. The VA cities that aren't in the mountains has a strong Mid-Atlantic vibe but I'm curious to how why the poster from NC feel like there's a "twin states" type of connection between VA and NC? I just don't feel that when I'm in VA (I feel MD has that claim over any other state over while NC has it with SC).
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Old 12-11-2018, 10:19 PM
 
Location: New Haven, CT
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This is quite laughable. Both Virginia and North Carolina are 100% southern states. Sorry, but there's absolutely nothing culturally or demographically mid atlantic about either of these states. Anyone who believes an extremely southern city like Richmond(which still celebrates the Confederacy) or Charlottesville(with it's Unite the Right Rally/Charlottesville riots are culturally similar/more in tune with Patterson, Allentown, Philadelphia, Rochester, Elizabeth, White Plains, etc really need their heads examined.
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