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Old 12-05-2018, 06:34 AM
 
Location: MD's Eastern Shore
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I don't see how anybody can call NC "Mid-Atlantic. It is purely southern. And VA? It is southern as well but blends into the Mid-Atlantic. I think of the VA part of Delmarva that puts it there as it shares a lot with MD and DE. Salisbury, MD is the main city of the region.

Personally, I always thought of (and was taught) that the Mid-Atlantic was VA up to extreme Southern NJ. With the NJ part being the Northeast and the VA part being the south. Think of the NC/VA border up to the MD/PA boarder carried eastward to the coast. MD and DE are the quintessential Mid-Atlantic states.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Center City
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NOVA is most definitely the Mid-Atlantic. To say otherwise would be pretty silly.
Until they rename Lee Highway, NOVA is still part of the south.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon (in Transition)
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If one holds to the orthodoxy that a state cannot be partitioned to different regions (e.g. northern Virginia being mid-Atlantic, the rest being southern), then VA and NC are Southern. If not, Northern Virginia is at least Mid-Atlantic and the rest Southern. Under no definition could I ever consider all of Virginia Mid-Atlantic, let alone North Carolina.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:34 AM
 
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It's interesting how regional designations that used to be delineated by state lines are now mainly delineated by urban/metropolitan areas. You can even see this when it comes to certain regions within states.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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I don't see how anybody can call NC "Mid-Atlantic. It is purely southern. And VA? It is southern as well but blends into the Mid-Atlantic. I think of the VA part of Delmarva that puts it there as it shares a lot with MD and DE. Salisbury, MD is the main city of the region.

Personally, I always thought of (and was taught) that the Mid-Atlantic was VA up to extreme Southern NJ. With the NJ part being the Northeast and the VA part being the south. Think of the NC/VA border up to the MD/PA boarder carried eastward to the coast. MD and DE are the quintessential Mid-Atlantic states.
Where have you been taught that? Historically, mid-Atlantic are the states in the Northeast that do not belong to New England. The quintessential mid-Atlantic states are NY, NJ, and PA. Historically, VA is the South.
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Mid-Atlantic in my opinion refers more to geography, since if one looks at a map North Carolina and Virginia are squarely in the middle of the Atlantic Coast between Maine and Florida. The term "Southern" is more cultural than geographic, and of course North Carolina fits there as well.
Geography has nothing to do with it. If NC is mid-Atlantic then Colorado is Midwestern...(actual geographical middle is west of the Mississippi, Midwest is not in the middle and not in the west). All these terms are cultural.

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Old 12-05-2018, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Until they rename Lee Highway, NOVA is still part of the south.
Mid-Atlantic does not preclude one from being within the South (or the Northeast). It is a subregion that includes both northern and southern areas...

I really don't get what's so difficult about this. An area can be of the Great Lakes, but be either Northeastern or Midwestern. An area can be of Appalachia but be either northern or southern. These hard lines you guys like to use to define areas is laughable...
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Fountain Square, Indianapolis
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I was just thinking about how the Pacific Northwest distinguishes itself from the rest of the west coast, but is still obviously/geographically the west coast..

Has anyone here ever heard the term Atlantic Southeast? It could mean GA, SC, NC and part of VA.

I've never heard it used before, but I'm rarely ever in the southeast, so I wouldn't know if it's used locally.
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Old 12-05-2018, 08:25 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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I’ve never heard of NC being referred to as Mid-Atlantic before. Is this a recent trend? Who is doing so? Should I do it?

Virginia I’ve heard as Mid-Atlantic fairly frequently.
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Norfolk (ODU)
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You cannot lump NC in with VA when referring to the mid Atlantic. Nova, Richmond and Hampton Roads are definitely mid Atlantic. The term definitely doesn’t apply the more western parts of Virginia. If you look up business with “Mid Atlantic” in the title from Hampton roads, I garauntee you’d get more results than you could count.
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:35 AM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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You cannot lump NC in with VA when referring to the mid Atlantic. Nova, Richmond and Hampton Roads are definitely mid Atlantic. The term definitely doesn’t apply the more western parts of Virginia. If you look up business with “Mid Atlantic” in the title from Hampton roads, I garauntee you’d get more results than you could count.
Precisely. I don't even view NC in the same light as I do Virginia.

Virginia the state is undoubtedly Southern while also being undoubtedly mid-Atlantic, with the northern most portions actually being tied into the NEC, but still retaining their own south-lite traits at the same time.
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