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Old 12-06-2018, 09:58 AM
 
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Is there something unusual about that? I'd expect people from any region to be more assertive about features and characteristics of their region than those who aren't from that region. And it's obvious this particular subject (states that constitute the mid-Atlantic region) isn't exactly a completely settled matter.
Nope, it's just almost always a Southerner stating a state or region is Southern or not and others stating otherwise. It's rarely the reverse and very one-sided.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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keep an eye out, it's almost always, just like this thread, a Southerner making some sort of claim regarding the South...
Exactly. I find it so odd.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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Nope, it's just almost always a Southerner stating a state or region is Southern or not and others stating otherwise. It's rarely the reverse and very one-sided.
There are valid reasons behind both the Southern and un-Southern perspectives due to 1) one regional term having more than one connotation, 2) shifting regional affiliations that occur over time as the country as a whole has become more diverse and urbanized, and 3) the official (U.S. government) regional designations being more historical in nature and not accounting for the aforementioned shifting regional affiliations. Both perspectives rest on those reasons to one extent or the other.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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Exactly. I find it so odd.
You shouldn't. The South is a weird, unique animal in the U.S. that was largely defined by its rural quality and the institutions and culture that sprang up around it. So this means that the rapidly urbanizing, diversifying parts of the South, particularly along the fringes of the region, are increasingly having their Southernness called into question.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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There are valid reasons behind both the Southern and un-Southern perspectives due to 1) one regional term having more than one connotation, 2) shifting regional affiliations that occur over time as the country as a whole has become more diverse and urbanized, and 3) the official (U.S. government) regional designations being more historical in nature and not accounting for the aforementioned shifting regional affiliations. Both perspectives rest on those reasons to one extent or the other.
I dont know Mutiny.... it seems to go beyond the superficial layer of change and designation. I sense a lot of pride and insecurity around the loss of the "South"..
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:58 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I dont know Mutiny.... it seems to go beyond the superficial layer of change and designation. I sense a lot of pride and insecurity around the loss of the "South"..
I don't know why the south would feel insecure with it being the fastest growing region in the country. It also doesn't hurt that the Nation's Capitol, the gateway to the Carribean, a Media, entertainment, transportation juggernaut, Warner weather (aside from the extreme upper south) tons historic, unique cities and towns large and small.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:04 PM
 
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I don't know why the south would feel insecure with it being the fastest growing region in the country. It also doesn't hurt that the Nation's Capitol, the gateway to the Carribean, a Media, entertainment, transportation juggernaut, Warner weather (aside from the extreme upper south) tons historic, unique cities and towns large and small.
I don't know.. It's just an observation that almost all "Southern" related threads and random interjections regarding who/where is and or isn't is usually from a Southerner. You should ask them.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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I don't know.. It's just an observation that almost all "Southern" related threads and random interjections regarding who/where is and or isn't is usually from a Southerner. You should ask them.
As a southerner, do you feel like certain areas of the south are being redesignated?
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:42 PM
 
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As a southerner, do you feel like certain areas of the south are being redesignated?
Prime example. I'm not a Southerner but you believe people from DC are Southerners. A Southerner making a claim about someone or somewhere's Southerness (if that's a word) .

But to answer your question. With migration patterns generally moving from North to South, cultures are bound to be diluted and/changed. DC is a prime example of how times/transplants can change a place.
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Old 12-06-2018, 02:05 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Prime example. I'm not a Southerner but you believe people from DC are Southerners. A Southerner making a claim about someone or somewhere's Southerness (if that's a word) .

But to answer your question. With migration patterns generally moving from North to South, cultures are bound to be diluted and/changed. DC is a prime example of how times/transplants can change a place.
Do you think that northern (Chicago, NYC, Philly..etc) cities became more southern during the great migration? More recently, do you think south Central PA is more southern due to so many people from Baltimore moving there?
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