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Old 12-29-2018, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Detroit does not qualify at all since it is a rather wealthy metropolis. Regions like the deep south and Appalachia or Ohio river valley are America's hopeless poverty centers.
The deep south is not all poor. Some extremely wealthy areas exist all throughout it, even in Mississippi.

The Ohio river valley has troubled areas but also places like Cincinnati, which is a solid city.

Detroit sucks. Sure, it's not all abandoned and burned out; but nobody in their right mind would consider modern day Detroit to be the picture of a wealthy metro. So many other US cities put Detroit to utter shame in terms of condition, safety, and economy. Y'all are just gonna have to deal with that.
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Old 12-29-2018, 10:30 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The deep south is not all poor. Some extremely wealthy areas exist all throughout it, even in Mississippi.

The Ohio river valley has troubled areas but also places like Cincinnati, which is a solid city.

Detroit sucks. Sure, it's not all abandoned and burned out; but nobody in their right mind would consider modern day Detroit to be the picture of a wealthy metro. So many other US cities put Detroit to utter shame in terms of condition, safety, and economy. Y'all are just gonna have to deal with that.
Of all the nonesene I hear on CD, this has to be one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever heard. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Oakland County, and several of its cities within it and a few outside of it, always rank amongst the wealthiest in the nation. Do you think one of the largest industries, it’s subsidiaries, and everything supporting it is run/owned by what you see in the media.

The irony isn’t lost on your statement that the Deep South isn’t all poor and there’s wealthy areas.
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Old 12-29-2018, 10:57 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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The war on coal during the obama years. Chuckle. Actually these areas are thriving now with new construction and jobs galore. Trump + GOP Senate + GOP House = magic. It's a Christmas miracle.
This isn't a political thread. The fact that Obama launched the war on coal against Appalachia is a fact, much like that Islamic terrorists attacked us on 9-11 and the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor. There are many RINOs in Congress and they never had a true veto proof majority.

Appalachia and the Rust Belt were definitely betrayed by our own government in terms of the war on coal and free trade agreements that sacrificed American manufacturing jobs for geopolitical purposes.
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Old 12-30-2018, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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Of all the nonesene I hear on CD, this has to be one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever heard. You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Oakland County, and several of its cities within it and a few outside of it, always rank amongst the wealthiest in the nation. Do you think one of the largest industries, it’s subsidiaries, and everything supporting it is run/owned by what you see in the media.

The irony isn’t lost on your statement that the Deep South isn’t all poor and there’s wealthy areas.
You misunderstand me.

Nobody would consider Detroit to be the PICTURE of a wealthy metro.

Do you know what that means? It's an old colloquialism that means the pinnacle, the standard, the prime example, the peak, the champ, the cat's meow, the ivory tower, the biggliest.

Detroit (not its neighbors) is far from that status. The fact that you have to use Detroit's siblings to make a point at all proves mine.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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Hmmmm why do you want to move there???????

- southern West Virginia and eastern Kentucky especially McDowell, Mingo, and Logan Counties in West Virginia due to the war on coal during the obama years. Even Walmart's closed in McDowell County

- Detroit

- South Side of Chicago

- Baltimore (most of the city limits with few exceptions)

- Gary, Indiana and nearby places

- Camden, New Jersey

- East St. Louis, Illinois (and large chunks of STL itself)

- South Bronx

- Most of the Rio Grande Valley including Laredo
These are all on point. I would add in the Mississippi River delta region, encompassing parts of Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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This isn't a political thread. The fact that Obama launched the war on coal against Appalachia is a fact, much like that Islamic terrorists attacked us on 9-11 and the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor. There are many RINOs in Congress and they never had a true veto proof majority.

Appalachia and the Rust Belt were definitely betrayed by our own government in terms of the war on coal and free trade agreements that sacrificed American manufacturing jobs for geopolitical purposes.
Coal’s downfall came way before Obama:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASRz...&feature=share

Also, manufacturing employment in the US peaked in 1979. So, that pre dates NAFTA and other such agreements.
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Old 12-30-2018, 10:53 AM
 
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These are all on point. I would add in the Mississippi River delta region, encompassing parts of Louisiana, Mississippi and Arkansas.
As well as western TN and even the Bootheel of SE MO/nearby portions of western KY/southern IL in the last part.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:20 AM
 
Location: IN
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Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70 View Post
This isn't a political thread. The fact that Obama launched the war on coal against Appalachia is a fact, much like that Islamic terrorists attacked us on 9-11 and the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor. There are many RINOs in Congress and they never had a true veto proof majority.

Appalachia and the Rust Belt were definitely betrayed by our own government in terms of the war on coal and free trade agreements that sacrificed American manufacturing jobs for geopolitical purposes.
The fact is lost on many people that coal had been declining in central Appalachia for over 50 years, the far greater advantage to retire coal plants was very cheap natural gas prices (due to hydraulic fracking) that had ZERO to due with Obama as most existing coal plants were already near the end of their lifespans. Regardless of any political winds, it would have made no difference in economics in central Appalachia pertaining to coal as the cost to extract the remaining seams of coal are very high cost, and non-labor intensive, which is why most people are against mountaintop removal coal mining. Also, most coal used to run electric generating stations is from the Powder River Basin in Wyoming and Montana. Most people have left these economically depressed areas generations ago to cities with jobs.
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: IN
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Coal’s downfall came way before Obama:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASRz...&feature=share

Also, manufacturing employment in the US peaked in 1979. So, that pre dates NAFTA and other such agreements.
Interesting you mention the year 1979, that was the year that this documentary came out that basically acknowledged the transition from the industrialized economy to an information economy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waQy2WKHiwY
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Old 12-30-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Somewhere extremely awesome
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You misunderstand me.

Nobody would consider Detroit to be the PICTURE of a wealthy metro.

Do you know what that means? It's an old colloquialism that means the pinnacle, the standard, the prime example, the peak, the champ, the cat's meow, the ivory tower, the biggliest.

Detroit (not its neighbors) is far from that status. The fact that you have to use Detroit's siblings to make a point at all proves mine.
From my observations about Detroit proper, yes, it is poor. It's comparable to many mostly struggling small towns in other parts of the state, though. I'd probably say that on a scale from 1 (the poorest) to 100 (the wealthiest) across the country, Detroit proper would be about a 20.
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