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Old 01-01-2019, 09:00 PM
 
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I knew I have seen a version of that style in Pittsburgh too, however they are currently not the standard and look to be very very old...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/60...!4d-79.9079229
Yeah, it's old. That's actually an old trolley pole that light's mounted on.
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Old 01-01-2019, 09:19 PM
 
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I hate wired lights looks like 3rd world and annoying... most of Upstate NY has those but thankfully not in NJ they are yellow hanging on aluminum poles. You can tell the difference when crossing the border.

My favorite traffic light design are on the West Coast / California.
You should see how they hang some streetlights (not just stoplights) in Michigan!:
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6134...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 01-01-2019, 09:28 PM
 
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The 2011 edition of the MUTCD (Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices), which is the edition that appears when I googled it specifically for Maryland (which is where both I and the poster whom I quoted live), specifically prohibits strobes embedded in the red light (Section 4D.06). Also, Section 4D.07 states "12-inch signal indications shall be used for all signal sections in all new signal faces." Have these standards been revised?
Personally, I hate this type standardization. I enjoy seeing how cities and towns across America have such varied-looking infrastructure (signage, street widths, bridges, lighting, etc.) I know the engineers will tell you it's all about "safety", but I think they have too much time on their hands, and the corporate interests are hell bent on reaping profits from the unnecessary retrofitting of American cities and towns due to these national standards.
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Brew City
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Milwaukee seems to like to declutter intersections by mounting signals on vertical poles instead of overhead which I find much more aesthetically pleasing.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0337...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0387...7i13312!8i6656

Even the ugly yellow looks better when simply mounted on a vertical pole.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0031...7i13312!8i6656
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Old 01-02-2019, 08:37 AM
 
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Here's one hung from a cable, that's a little different:
https://gizmodo.com/the-story-behind...ght-1545301615
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Milwaukee seems to like to declutter intersections by mounting signals on vertical poles instead of overhead which I find much more aesthetically pleasing.

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0337...7i13312!8i6656


https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0387...7i13312!8i6656

Even the ugly yellow looks better when simply mounted on a vertical pole.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.0031...7i13312!8i6656
I don't like that style at all. It's way too easy to not even see them and inadvertently run a red light. (Ask me how I know!) From a traffic safety point of view, I find the overhead type to be much, much better.
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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This is the perfect thread I think to rant about the traffic light I hate the most of anywhere. This is on my commute in Newark, NJ. I'm so glad Streetview caught it at its worst. WHY is the red light on the left, but the left turn signal is on the right?? It's so confusing. People run this almost every single cycle. I have several times because you see red on the right, you assume red to turn. You see green on the left, you assume green to go straight. Wrong. It's Newark. You lose.
https://goo.gl/maps/ToJ8pe6fcB92

I also really don't like the SF style ones. They're basically hidden. People run red lights in the Avenues all the time because of them. For such wide streets, the signal placements are horrible. The others neighborhoods besides the Avenues are about the same, though some have the metal pole hanging over the intersection type...but not all.
https://goo.gl/maps/kBM4fCwh63v
https://goo.gl/maps/kSwkgMaJNnR2
https://goo.gl/maps/Rgk1gk1zihy
https://goo.gl/maps/ExfX6vRyAs62
https://goo.gl/maps/q45F17rzhVC2
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Old 01-02-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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This is the perfect thread I think to rant about the traffic light I hate the most of anywhere. This is on my commute in Newark, NJ. I'm so glad Streetview caught it at its worst. WHY is the red light on the left, but the left turn signal is on the right?? It's so confusing. People run this almost every single cycle. I have several times because you see red on the right, you assume red to turn. You see green on the left, you assume green to go straight. Wrong. It's Newark. You lose.
https://goo.gl/maps/ToJ8pe6fcB92
Believe it or not, that signal is actually the way it is supposed to be, according to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices, illustrated in Figure 4D-11. Which just goes to show that just because something is correct doesn't make it right. The red signal on horizontal traffic lights is supposed to go on the left, but I always want it to be on the right. And this is a good example of why. If it went green-yellow-red, then the green left turn arrow could be on the left side of the signal . . . which makes intuitive sense, since the motorists who are need of that signal are in the left lane. But no, for some reason, they're done red-yellow-green, and the green arrow is always next to the green signal, regardless of which way it's pointing.

I've never lived in a place where horizontal traffic lights are the norm, so maybe it's just me. Maybe people who live in those places are used to them, and having the red signal on the left makes perfect sense to them. But it always confuses me.
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Believe it or not, that signal is actually the way it is supposed to be, according to the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices, illustrated in Figure 4D-11. Which just goes to show that just because something is correct doesn't make it right. The red signal on horizontal traffic lights is supposed to go on the left, but I always want it to be on the right. And this is a good example of why. If it went green-yellow-red, then the green left turn arrow could be on the left side of the signal . . . which makes intuitive sense, since the motorists who are need of that signal are in the left lane. But no, for some reason, they're done red-yellow-green, and the green arrow is always next to the green signal, regardless of which way it's pointing.

I've never lived in a place where horizontal traffic lights are the norm, so maybe it's just me. Maybe people who live in those places are used to them, and having the red signal on the left makes perfect sense to them. But it always confuses me.
My only response is bolding this sentence because yep, this makes no logical sense even though it's "correct." Try asking people who drive the street every day, and I can guarantee we all find it wrong, confusing, and dangerous.
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Old 01-02-2019, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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I don't like that style at all. It's way too easy to not even see them and inadvertently run a red light. (Ask me how I know!) From a traffic safety point of view, I find the overhead type to be much, much better.
Once youíre used to them you donít think anything of them. Other than I find them much much tidier.
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