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Old 01-01-2019, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Point Loma, San Diego, CA
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Great thread.

I'm from Pittsburgh and had no clue there was a subway until I saw the "The Next Three Days."

Seattle's LINK is a light rail but feels %100 like a legit subway when underground.

Conversely, when you hop on the Expo line in DTLA it fees like light rail that happens to go underground, and not a subway.

Something I never knew about the San Diego Trolley until I took it to SDSU a few months ago is that it goes underground there, and stops in a huge tunnel that feels very subway-like.

I know real subway is much more expensive than light rail and hard for most cities to justify. Interesting that pretty much all of the rust belt cities had at or near the density of modern day San Francisco post WWII but only Cleveland came away with a real subway.
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Miami technically really shouldn't be deleted. They have a real Heavy Rail system that is completely grade separated, but it's almost entirely elevated. You can't build a subway there, the water table is too high.
It's true that the Miami Metrorail is definitely a heavy rail system. But it's also entirely above-ground, and thus is excluded as per the OP's requirements. Honolulu will be getting a heavy rail system before too long, but it too is entirely above ground (I think) and thus also would not qualify.
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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Minneapolis's Blue Line LRT goes underground where it runs under the runways at MSP airport. Two stations, Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 are underground.
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Old 01-01-2019, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Washington State desert
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Minneapolis's Blue Line LRT goes underground where it runs under the runways at MSP airport. Two stations, Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 are underground.
As opposed to running across the runways at MSP? That is funny.

But, seriously, I like the stations at MSP. Seattle has a station somewhat near SEA, but requires a long walk in open air corridors. Which is nice for 5 months of the year, and terrible the rest of the year!
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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It's a "long" walk with multiple suitcases and for the handicapped. The latter can take a cart. I don't see a problem. It's open air but the only really exposed place is on the platform itself....it's probably 60 feet in the air.
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Old 01-02-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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Doesn’t Seattle’s light rail share stations with buses? I don’t think that counts as a subway as long as that’s true. Pittsburgh’s light rail is above ground and very infrequent from what I’ve seen. Maybe there are exceptions.

Pittsburgh's system is a subway in the CBD , which also tunnels under the Allegheny river to the North Side. It does have 4 connected underground stations, with all of the tracks underground also within the downtown area, so it definitely is a subway.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:08 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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Doesn’t Seattle’s light rail share stations with buses? I don’t think that counts as a subway as long as that’s true. Pittsburgh’s light rail is above ground and very infrequent from what I’ve seen. Maybe there are exceptions.
Pittsburgh's light rail system has underground components with three underground stations downtown and one underground station in North Shore in use. The parts underground and a couple other stations are where light rail services interline so are pretty frequent along that eight station segment (four underground).

Pittsburgh's geography with development concentrated due to the hilly topography and strong secondary CBD makes it a great candidate for vastly improving mass transit--though it probably needs to show signs of growing again for anyone to seriously push for an expansion.
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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Some information on underground stops in Buffalo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaSall...alo_Metro_Rail)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univer...alo_Metro_Rail)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amherst_Street_station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbol...spital_station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delava...ollege_station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utica_...alo_Metro_Rail)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer...93Best_station

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen/...Campus_station
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Old 01-02-2019, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Newark City Subway has a few underground stations downtown (Newark Penn Station, Military Park/Broad Street, Washington Street, Warren Street). Several other stations are in a cut until you get out to Branch Brook Park. It's a LRT system, not heavy rail.

A couple of other subway lines went defunct, so there used to be more of an underground system in Newark.

https://youtu.be/YyAhAq_AvF8?t=140
https://youtu.be/zi0IIOiMkpg?t=83
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Old 01-02-2019, 01:10 PM
 
Location: The City
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Do we give Jersey City/Hoboken a mention for the PATH system?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ2BgV1BYeM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2saUd9CI7c


Camden NJ as well with underground subway stations
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