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DC has both Northern and Southern influences, but culturally, I think it leans more Northern, at least on the surface. It's probably best described as "Mid-Atlantic" though. Also, I agree Houston and Atlanta are Southern AND cosmopolitan, but there is very little that is Southern about Miami, at least to me. Kode, could you describe Miami's Southernness?
Location, location, location, history, black natives.
Now you're basing DC regional population on a smaller population than the black population that I used, which is less than 1/10th of the population of the DC metro. .....riiiight
I only mentioned the Asian population bc you only fixate on the African American population as DC's tie to "southern" but the % of Asians resembles nothing "southern".
I only mentioned the Asian population bc you only fixate on the African American population as DC's tie to "southern" but the % of Asians resembles nothing "southern".
While a place with a high Asian population percentage is not typically Southern at all, there are still many prominent Asian communities in the South-- Vietnamese communities on the Gulf coast, Koreans in Atlanta, Chinese in the Mississippi Delta who have been there since the 1800s, etc. Just want to clarify that just because someone is ethnically Asian, it does not mean they cannot be culturally Southern.
While a place with a high Asian population percentage is not typically Southern at all, there are still many prominent Asian communities in the South-- Vietnamese communities on the Gulf coast, Koreans in Atlanta, Chinese in the Mississippi Delta who have been there since the 1800s, etc. Just want to clarify that just because someone is ethnically Asian, it does not mean they cannot be culturally Southern.
Yes, pockets exist but overall % #s when it comes to Asians, DC resembles none other in the South i.e. DC area has ~2x the Koreans in ATL but ATL gets attention for it bc its noteworthy for the South.
My point overall was that while the African American population in DC can resemble the south the Asian American population doesnt thus racial makeup for one or the other is irrelevant in determining "southerness".
Retail make up i.e. cava, pret-a-manger, blue bottle, la colombe - they all skipped BMore so I can see why you dont see it.
Consumption patterns i.e. sweet tea, organic
DC does not have an IVY but it is a top destination along with NYC, SF, Boston
Everyone basically disagrees with you on this thread as they think the map looks good which excludes MD and DC and no DC resident on CD as long as we've had this discussion has identified as Southern so at some point, which you probably wont, you have to see that you're not the norm in thought of DC's regional "cultural" identity.
You're basing regional identity on Coffee and sandwich shops?? Lol
It doesn't matter what you identify as, the Census Bureau, which is based in DC ironically, considers you southern. Those coffee and sandwich shops haven't been that busy in the past couple of weeks.
You're basing regional identity on Coffee and sandwich shops?? Lol
It doesn't matter what you identify as, the Census Bureau, which is based in DC ironically, considers you southern. Those coffee and sandwich shops haven't been that busy in the past couple of weeks.
Way to deflect man.... I provided examples of popular chains in DC which clearly align with Northern cities which you thought I made up and now you think they are irrelevant.
Yes, pockets exist but overall % #s when it comes to Asians, DC resembles none other in the South i.e. DC area has ~2x the Koreans in ATL but ATL gets attention for it bc its noteworthy for the South.
My point overall was that while the African American population in DC can resemble the south the Asian American population doesnt thus racial makeup for one or the other is irrelevant in determining "southerness".
But you said earlier Puerto Ricans was a Northern thing and well Miami has a ton.. again I guess blacks are the only demographic that matters?
Miami has a lower percentage of Puerto Ricans than most Major Northern cities, aside from that fact, Miami is located in the south; it's the geographically the southern most Major city in the contiguous 48 states. Is Miami no longer southern all of a sudden?
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