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Old 01-03-2019, 01:37 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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See attached. Is this a good (rough) map of the South-- Upper and Deep. Upper in orange and Deep in red.
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Old 01-03-2019, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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See attached. Is this a good (rough) map of the South-- Upper and Deep. Upper in orange and Deep in red.
Looks pretty good other than it looks like a kindergartener did the coloring.

The only thing I'd change on that map is that the deep south should include a bit larger chunk of east Texas and a slight bit more of SW Arkansas as well as a bit of the southeastern corner of Oklahoma along the red river.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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No NoVa?
 
Old 01-03-2019, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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This is the closest representation I’ve seen yet, though I would not have gone so far up the east coast. I personally would have stopped midway NC around Morehead City as you are getting close to the VA Tidewater Region. What is your reasoning for including this region? Looks like you follow the fall line.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 02:22 PM
 
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I don't know that the Virginia Tidewater is "Deep South." I've always thought of the Deep South as beginning somewhere in the SC lowcountry and stretching west into Mississippi. Tidewater is like a "shallow south"

Whatever color Tidewater should be, I'd expand it across the Chesapeake Bay to Northampton and Accomack counties in VA, and up through Salisbury to Sussex County, DE and Denton, MD. And I wouldn't be afraid to paint the area from St. Marys through Chesapeake Beach, maybe even up to Annapolis. All of that is old Tidewater, and it's part of the South.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Terramaria
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I don't know that the Virginia Tidewater is "Deep South." I've always thought of the Deep South as beginning somewhere in the SC lowcountry and stretching west into Mississippi. Tidewater is like a "shallow south"

Whatever color Tidewater should be, I'd expand it across the Chesapeake Bay to Northampton and Accomack counties in VA, and up through Salisbury to Sussex County, DE and Denton, MD. And I wouldn't be afraid to paint the area from St. Marys through Chesapeake Beach, maybe even up to Annapolis. All of that is old Tidewater, and it's part of the South.
As a person from central MD, I've even never set foot in Charles, Calvert, and St. Mary's County. Yes, parts of Charles have some DC suburban influence, but those three counties plus all of the Eastern Shore south of US 301 still retain a pretty southern feel, and I'd throw in parts of Kent County, DE as well (not the Dover/Smyrna corridor though). That said, the portion of Sussex County near the beaches doesn't feel that southern due to the transplants and retirees, plus its just a ferry ride away from NJ.

And I always think of a "Middle" division within the south. IMO the Upper South is the portion of the region that has more influence from the neighboring northern region (Lower Midwest/Northern Appalachia/Mid-Atlantic) than it does with the Deep South. This includes most of the southern thirds of MD, DE, the southern two-thirds of WV, most of KY (except for the Cincinnati suburbs), most of VA (except for the DC suburbs and southside), Northeastern TN, southern MO, and northwest AR. The Middle South (most of NC & TN, northern AL & GA, upstate SC, southside VA, central AR) are sort of this middle ground in that its clearly southern, but not quite in the deepest portion. Anything south of there (including the Memphis area) is deep south, ending about 30 miles north of I-4 in Florida and about 30 miles west of I-45 in Texas. Though arguably a fourth division, "Frontier South", also exists, encompassing the middle two-thirds or so TX, and most of OK outside of the panhandle and parts that border Arkansas. It's southern with western influences, just like how upper south is southern with northern influences.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Columbia SC
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I agree, I,d bring it up to I-20 in South Carolina making Florence and Columbia gateway cities.
 
Old 01-03-2019, 03:21 PM
 
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See attached. Is this a good (rough) map of the South-- Upper and Deep. Upper in orange and Deep in red.
Did you color this?
 
Old 01-03-2019, 03:23 PM
 
Location: BMORE!
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Why no MD?
 
Old 01-03-2019, 03:28 PM
 
Location: North Caroline
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Did you color this?
Yes lol-- a kindergartner could do much better. I only found two old, colored pencils laying around, unfortunately.
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