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Old 02-25-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Annual murders in New York exceeded 1,400 for the first time in 1971, and they stayed above that mark for every single year through 1994, with the exception of 1985, when it dipped just barely below that number. During the course of those 24 years, New York averaged 1,716 murders each and every year -- or almost 5 people each and every single day.

Conversely, the number dropped below 700 per year in 1998 and under 600 per year in 2002. In the 16 years from then through 2017, the city averaged 467 murders per year. Looking at just the last 5 years of this period, the annual average was just 327 - less than 1 per day.

Think about that: from an average of 1,716 murders each and every year for 24 straight years, down to an average of just 327 murders for the most recent 5 years (for which data was readily available). Anyone lamenting having been too young to have experienced the "grit" of New York during the 70s, 80s, and early 90s should dwell on these figures, and be thankful that they never had to experience that great city at its worst.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_...urders_by_year
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Old 02-25-2019, 12:12 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Washington DC of course!
1989-1997 DCs average murder rate was 65.9
1998-2008 DCs average murder rate was 39
2009-2016 (Obama years) rate 19.2
DC murder rate is ticking back up, and their overall crime rate has been an up and down curve.

NYC has uniformly dropped like a rock in every metric of crime.

So for a large city, its 100% NYC as the poster child, and now LA is following suit.
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Old 02-25-2019, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I grew up during the crack years. Back then, Times Square, the East Village and LES we’re still pretty dangerous.

Brooklyn’s gentrification is older than you think. Brooklyn Heights was always nice. Park Slope was gentrified by the early 90s. By 2000, Williamsburg, Ft Greene and Prospect Heights were gentrified. 2010 is when hyper-gentrification went into effect, and places like Crown Heights, Bed Stuy and Bushwick gentrified.
I heard Park slope was fully genterfied by the turn of millenum, but didn't know Willamsburg started genterfied in the early 90s. It's crazy some of the most dangerous neighborhoods 25-30 years ago are now flooded with millionaires. I guess 9/11, Guliunai and Bloomberg really pushed NYC to a more tame city. It just blows my mind a city the size of NYC was the fear of the fear of the world. I knew LA was pretty bad back then with the gang violence but NYC shunned gang-culture back then. Growing up in the 2000s everyone dream was to live in NYC.
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Old 02-26-2019, 06:47 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I heard Park slope was fully genterfied by the turn of millenum, but didn't know Willamsburg started genterfied in the early 90s. It's crazy some of the most dangerous neighborhoods 25-30 years ago are now flooded with millionaires. I guess 9/11, Guliunai and Bloomberg really pushed NYC to a more tame city. It just blows my mind a city the size of NYC was the fear of the fear of the world. I knew LA was pretty bad back then with the gang violence but NYC shunned gang-culture back then. Growing up in the 2000s everyone dream was to live in NYC.
It wasn't all bad, plenty of areas were still fine in the 70s-90s, just a lot more spotty and large swaths of dis-invested neighborhoods.

But its still amazing today to see how vastly different the city is and how low crime levels have gotten. The city is definitely tamer though as you mentioned, thats what happens when a whole lot of rich people arrive.
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It wasn't all bad, plenty of areas were still fine in the 70s-90s, just a lot more spotty and large swaths of dis-invested neighborhoods.

But its still amazing today to see how vastly different the city is and how low crime levels have gotten. The city is definitely tamer though as you mentioned, thats what happens when a whole lot of rich people arrive.
I know parts of Manhattan were gentrifying in the 60s.
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