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I'm a non smoker, so I wouldn't know any other brands other than Camel and Marlboro.
I get what you're saying but being a non-smoker doesn't necessarily mean that you would have heard of only two brands. I've also never smoked and could probably name quite a few. Maybe 10 or so probably because I've had relatives that smoked. Winston and Salem would definitely be among the ten.
Are you sure? Even my relatives in Hong Kong have all heard of La Jolla even without us telling them about it, even before they visited La Jolla.
Does Winston Salem have anything even half as well known as La Jolla or Balboa Park or UCSD? I'd have to say Winston-Salem is more overshadowed.
I'm sure that San Diego is much, much more famous than Winston Salem, but LA and SF are much more famous than Raleigh and Charlotte, so it's relative as to which is more overshadowed.
I think that you overestimate UCSD though. I think the average American doesn't know the distinction between SDSU, UCSD, and USD.
I get what you're saying but being a non-smoker doesn't necessarily mean that you would have heard of only two brands. I've also never smoked and could probably name quite a few. Maybe 10 or so probably because I've had relatives that smoked. Winston and Salem would definitely be among the ten.
None of my relatives have ever smoked, so go figure! No wonder I've never heard of that Winston and Salem brand.
The most famous thing to come out of Winston Salem is Krispy Kreme, but who really knew its hq was in Winston Salem?
I think that you overestimate UCSD though. I think the average American doesn't know the distinction between SDSU, UCSD, and USD.
I mean, the average American is a moron. I'd bet that most people don't even know what CalTech is, or the Claremont-McKenna colleges, but they'd know Gonzaga in...Spokane, WA? Americans care about sports schools like USC and UCLA.
I know this is City Data, but do people in real life really consider San Jose as a separate entity from the rest of the Bay Area? To me at least, its all one metro area. Not saying that SJ is a suburb of SF by any means, but SF-SJ-OAK all seem to be part of the same cultural/political/economic area. Hell I know whenever the Caps play the Sharks, they fly into SFO instead of SJ.
No, no one looks at SJ as a separate entity, just like no one looks at Oakland as a separate place. It's all Bay Area in real life...
To be fair though, I think SJ is a Top 5 city in Cali, if we are strictly talking cities...
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I think that you overestimate UCSD though. I think the average American doesn't know the distinction between SDSU, UCSD, and USD.
Exactly!
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Sacramento is California’s #5 city, San Jose is its 4th.
I was speaking regionally. LA, Bay, SD, Sac...
There is great fluidity in the structure of Cali cities after the top 3. San Diego isn't all that far ahead of San Jose and Sacramento and Oakland, and depending on what criteria being considered, Oak/Sac/SJ can be numbered any way from 4-6. There is a bigger gap between LA and SF to SD, than SD to Oak/SJ/Sac...
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Agree....as I stated earlier, doubt some/many people on the East Coast, South, certainly outside the US, know how good UCSD is in its field of expertise (life sciences and engineering).... just as Amherst is overshadowed by the Ivy’s and a host of other top schools outside that region (Duke, Chicago, Northwestern, Virginia, Johns Hopkins, etc etc). Not sure a UCSD degree has the pull/clout in the Midwest or East when looking for a job as Hopkins, MIT, Stanford, Princeton etc does nationwide.
In UCSD’s case, it’s expertise—though great—is limited to STEM...they do have a graduate business school but it is unranked and they do not have a law school—unlike Berkeley and UCLA which are more rounded in that regard, older/more established along with strong(er) alumni network, and UCLA has the added benefit of being recognized by its sports programs..
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I think that you overestimate UCSD though. I think the average American doesn't know the distinction between SDSU, UCSD, and USD.
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UCSD is absolutely world class, though. Comparable with UT Austin in CompSci. Tampa and San Antone have no unis even close to UCSD. Austin overshadows San Antonio because of UT Austin.
Yeah, I went to UT Austin, but even I will acknowledge that some of the regional UC schools are at least on par with Texas. Kind of sad actually.
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I mean, the average American is a moron. I'd bet that most people don't even know what CalTech is, or the Claremont-McKenna colleges, but they'd know Gonzaga in...Spokane, WA? Americans care about sports schools like USC and UCLA.
USC and UCLA are both pretty good schools, but yeah, not in Cal Tech's league.
Greensboro's downtown still lags behind the downtowns of similarly-sized cities. Very poor downtown...
Greensboro's downtown is certainly a bit on the small side compared to its peers but I wouldn't say it's "very poor." Most of it is aesthetically nice and Elm Street is quite vibrant. There is new development planned and under construction that will make it into a more well-rounded place.
Yeah you don’t really hear much about Tampa at all except if you’re into pro sports or have family who retired in the area. I think more or less of it like the San Diego of Florida, except the Tampa area has more people than Orlando. It’s a weird dynamic. I wonder why Walt Disney chose Orlando to build his park rather than somewhere closer to the coast.
Central Florida, like San Antonio-Austin are all growing into each other eventually. So this might be an outdated topic in 30 years.
The answer is actually pretty simple- It's because Walt Disney couldn't afford coastal property, and it was much cheaper to build his massive complex in the swamps and lakes of interior Florida. And, other more established metros like Miami-Ft. Lauderdale and Tampa-St. Petersburg already existed and had geographic constraints limiting such huge development. Anyway, once the sprawling complex was built, other amusement parks expanded and the region became a huge tourist draw.
Again, if the whole TB area was centered around one, much larger city-like a Seattle or a Denver- rather than decentralized/spread out among several hubs, I think you'd hear more about the region. But ultimately you're right- in the not-too-distant future, the area will blur together. If Governor Scott hadn't turned down funds for the bullet train, the link would've helped accelerate the blending as a region.
They used to be in a single MSA but since 2003 (I believe) the MSA became a CSA and Winston-Salem and Greensboro/High Point became separate MSAs. Greensboro is the third largest MSA in the state and Winston-Salem is fourth.
There used to be a time when the Triad was arguably NC's most important metro with both the furniture and textiles industries there.
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