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Old 04-19-2019, 08:06 PM
 
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I would keep in eye on Texrail in Fort Worth. It’s already looking to expand and it’s going expand(Medical District, TCU/Berry Street, Hulen/Granbury and Summer Creek)where the people are. In its first month it had 98,582 rides. Service was free at that time and I suspect a drop in ridership did occur because it’s not free anymore.
https://www.tcu360.com/2019/03/texra...tive-response/
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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Dallas should have invested heavily in rail in its city limits before it suburbs. Rail needs to be where the people are. I think the idea of building rail and waiting for areas to develop around it is not smart because in the end your losing more money by being cheap.
Not only that but it also helps to fuel the anti-transit types, some of which are vocally present on the Dallas CD forum (e.g. "90% of growth outside DART regions! See it's a failure! More highways!"). I do think the future of DART is brighter now than at any point in its entire history. We finally have people on board that know what they're doing.
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Old 04-19-2019, 08:14 PM
 
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Not only that but it also helps to fuel the anti-transit types, some of which are vocally present on the Dallas CD forum (e.g. "90% of growth outside DART regions! See it's a failure! More highways!"). I do think the future of DART is brighter now than at any point in its entire history. We finally have people on board that know what they're doing.
I agree. The planned downtown Dallas subway will definetly be a game changer.
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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I'm in Houston. Our roads are VERY full and getting worse. Construction is happening due to the congestion and it's SO bad. US 290 has taken 7 years and it's still being worked on



Transplants cannot drive. Worst offenders? Newly moved NJ people. They're the worst texters and slowest drivers because they're texting and not using blinkers. I know it's them. Can't miss that ugly yellow license plate on freeways all in the left lane, going 55 while texting while 500 other cars can't get around them.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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I'm in Houston. Our roads are VERY full and getting worse. Construction is happening due to the congestion and it's SO bad. US 290 has taken 7 years and it's still being worked on



Transplants cannot drive. Worst offenders? Newly moved NJ people. They're the worst texters and slowest drivers because they're texting and not using blinkers. I know it's them. Can't miss that ugly yellow license plate on freeways all in the left lane, going 55 while texting while 500 other cars can't get around them.
I guess our largest export must be those drivers, since I rarely witness that in the actual state of NJ. NJ is known for aggressive drivers and road rage, not so much slow driving.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:30 AM
 
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These studies, or rather the interpretation of them, is faulty at best. I don’t see how measuring average hours or money spent in traffic leads to the “most congested” title. There are so many factors that need to be taken into consideration. Lazy study.

A proper study would be one that measures the amount of time traffic flows at less than, say, 20 mph, on the greatest percentage of metro highways. That requires a ton of legwork and money but until a proper study is done, I usually dismiss ones like above.

There is no way DC traffic even comes close to what’s experienced daily in LA. Anecdotal, of course, but having lived in both areas, they aren’t on the same level.
I mean, not really. Roads and driving are the primary source people use to get from one place to the next, if a city or an area is even somewhat close to being full IMO these studies would give an indication. The fact that Dallas and Houston aren’t on here to me says the roads are super congested I’m sure but not anything near NYC, Boston, LA, DC levels therefore it’s not full.

Atlanta maybe another story since it seems to make the list sporadically.
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Old 04-22-2019, 10:34 AM
 
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Texans are probably one of the worst drivers, transplant or not I'll group them together. I think the combination of congestion and road layout PROMOTES risky driving maneuvers and therefore more accidents. A good are non-traffic light regulated left turns onto Highway 6 where it is 4+ lanes each way. Lack of dedicated turn lanes is also a problem because instead you have these small gaps in the median. It's just a never-ending snowballing of congestion.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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I think it's a myth that DFW traffic is not as bad as Houston traffic. It's gotten considerably worse with all of the domestic migrants moving there and the location of the high-paying jobs being spread out among the northern suburbs is creating spread out traffic chokepoints. The good thing is that if you're south of I-30, and don't have to travel north for work, then you're going to have a much quicker commute.

I took these screen shots a a few minutes apart apart on the same day last week. Small sample, but it's what I've noticed after living/spending time in both areas. Houston traffic is generally heavier earlier, but clears quicker. In addition, you know the flow of traffic since the majority are traveling in the same direction. The east side is pretty clear of all traffic. In contrast, DFW traffic is not has heavy earlier on like in Houston, but it lingers a bit longer. In addition, all freeways heading north are jammed, and once you get north, those freeways are jammed both ways. There's less uniformity in the DFW traffic.




















In the end, it's splitting hairs as it's mostly the same since they're of similar size.

Edit: By the way, I'm on the west coast so add 2 hours to the time you see.

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Old 04-22-2019, 11:18 AM
 
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I guess our largest export must be those drivers, since I rarely witness that in the actual state of NJ. NJ is known for aggressive drivers and road rage, not so much slow driving.
Same. Whenever I see that yellow license plate they are normally petal to the metal in a BMW of some sort. My kind of drivers!
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Old 04-26-2019, 10:20 AM
 
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There is no way DC traffic even comes close to what’s experienced daily in LA. Anecdotal, of course, but having lived in both areas, they aren’t on the same level.
I've lived in both and they're both very bad, just in different ways. Unlike LA, DC has very few alternatives to its arterials and has more physical barriers (the rivers) combined with wealthy NIMBYs who don't want any additional roads or freeways in their areas and its a disaster. DC is also a major chokepoint on the Eastern Seaboard due to a lack of alternative routes, so the NE Corridor-Florida traffic is funneled through here along with the local traffic. I-95 in Northern VA could go toe-to-toe with the 405 or the 101 any day in terms of volume and congestion. Also factor in lots of transplants from different places who have their own driving quirks also live here, so that is an issue too. Maryland drivers tend to be the fastest and rudest, Virginians drive as if cops are everywhere, and DC drivers drive as if traffic cameras are all over the place. All bad in their own way.

To me, LA was bad due to the sheer volume of cars/people and the geographic constraints (ocean and mountain passes), but Angelenos have better road manners than Washingtonians (there seems to be a combination of the more laid-back West Coast vibe plus a "we're all stuck in traffic, so no need to get too pressed" feel unlike the Type-A, self-important nature of Washingtonians), plus there are plenty of alternative arterial routes in the LA Basin and the SF Valley. It's pretty easy to find alternatives if the 405 on the Westside is at a crawl. I learned to love Sepulveda Blvd quick, fast and in a hurry. Don't get me wrong, the arterials could get pretty bad, but at least you have options. The only advantage DC seems to have over LA is that because its a company town for the most part, its rush hours/peak periods seem to be more consistent than LA (people working more traditional hours), where people working multiple shifts create multiple rush hours through the day and sometimes into the night.
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