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Old 09-21-2019, 12:02 PM
 
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Atlanta.

It's already becoming more dense, and currently it's one of the least dense. There's a lot of trees that stand in the way on infill, but that can always be dealt with.
The City of Atlanta will obviously become more dense as the population grows within limited boundaries. The region is still sprawling like crazy with endless room to grow outwards.
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Old 09-21-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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Phoenix and Tempe are getting denser constantly. The amount of high rises (high rises in this area are still kinda short) that have gone up in each in the last 10 years is impressive. Traffic and geographic limitations will eventually curb outward sprawl

LA is doing great at diversifying it’s transportation options as well
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Old 09-22-2019, 12:06 PM
 
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Most major American cities will become more dense, simply because of (1) population growth, (2) no remaining undeveloped land, and (3) the unlikeliness of significant annexation. There are a number of sunbelt cities that will continue to see significant growth (and an increase in city "density" as a result of continued suburban sprawl within static boundaries.

I also believe that the urban core of most cities and regions will become more dense regardless of what happens in inner suburbs, outer suburbs, or other urban neighborhoods.

Increased Density from a city perspective (bold = known for sprawl)
  1. Miami
  2. San Francisco
  3. Washington, DC
  4. Seattle
  5. LA
  6. San Diego
  7. Boston
  8. Atlanta


Increased density from a regional perspective:
  1. San Diego
  2. Miami
  3. San Francisco/bay area
  4. Boston
  5. DC

A good reference point is the % of new homes that are multi-family (2006-2018), as an indicator of higher density infill development (bold = known for sprawl):

NYC:76.3%
LA: 67.5%
SF: 65%
San Diego:61.1%
Boston: 58.1%
Seattle:56.2%
Miami: 49.9%
Denver: 47.6%
Chicago: 47.6%
Portland:46.1%
Washington, DC: 42.5%

From a regional perspective, I think San Diego or Miami will see the most growth in density. Both regions have limited to no ability to sprawl outwards and both have notable population growth and multi-family construction. The urban parts of LA and SF will densify at similar rates, but there is also room to continue sprawling outwards (inland empire, high desert, Santa Clarita, etc. and central valley for bay area).

The City of San Diego has spent the past decade revisiting its comprehensive plan to allow more development.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-building-boom
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Old 09-22-2019, 09:37 PM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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I think the best candidates for more density share two main traits. #1, they have transit solutions, or are building them at a rapid clip. #2, they don't have much more room to sprawl.

Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle all have these traits. I think they are good candidates for much more density.
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Old 09-23-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Atlanta.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Atlanta, Dallas, and Denver.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Salt Lake City and Las Vegas, just because growth in a valley will lead to these cities hitting a wall unless they build pass mountains but even then SLC doesn't really have any space to build that's within commutable distance. This is some of the same reasons that lead to LA and SF being 2 of the densest cities in America metro wide. But they have even physically smaller valleys, I doubt urban growth boundaries will ever be reinstated in cities; similar to Miami unless the metro area abuts a National/State Park of some sort.

Orlando which may not get physically denser will get statistically denser because it is walled in by other cities/MSA's and so adding a county in nearly every direction to it's MSA will lead to similar or even higher densities making the MSA itself get denser as it grows rather than fall of when it adds a county like other MSAs.
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Dallas is definitely becoming more dense and cohesive in the urban core. Crazy growth here.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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Boston, Seattle, DC, Denver, will density further.

Those metros might be growing slower than Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, etc but the people who move to those places are doing it because they want to live in the city. Almost 1/2 of Boston’s metro growth is in 100 sq miles.

Dallas City has gained 147,000 people in over 300 sq miles compared to Boston, Cambridge, Somerville, Watertown Chelsea, Everett, Waltham, Arlington, Malden, Revere, Winthrop, Brookline, Lynn which have gained about 125k in 120ish sq miles.

Seattle and Bellevue gained 160,000 in 117 sq miles.

Atlanta gained 68,000 in 127 sq miles

Many of the already dense cities are actually outpacing the sunbelt cities even if their metros are not growing as fast.
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Old 09-25-2019, 01:03 AM
 
Location: WA Desert, Seattle native
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Boston, Seattle, DC, Denver, will density further.

Those metros might be growing slower than Atlanta, Dallas, Houston, etc but the people who move to those places are doing it because they want to live in the city. Almost 1/2 of Bostonís metro growth is in 100 sq miles.

Dallas City has gained 147,000 people in over 300 sq miles compared to Boston, Cambridge, Somerville, Watertown Chelsea, Everett, Waltham, Arlington, Malden, Revere, Winthrop, Brookline, Lynn which have gained about 125k in 120ish sq miles.

Seattle and Bellevue gained 160,000 in 117 sq miles.

Atlanta gained 68,000 in 127 sq miles

Many of the already dense cities are actually outpacing the sunbelt cities even if their metros are not growing as fast.
That is interesting about Seattle gaining 160K in 117 sq miles, while Atlanta only gained 68K in a roughly equivalent area. There is no question Amazon and general hi-tech development has created this density. Frankly Seattle looks totally different today than when I grew up, but then again, I'm old. Seriously, the skyline is not actually that much taller, but much denser with all the development in the South Lake Union area, and the Amazon district. While tall is one indicator of how a city is performing, density is even a better indicator. And Seattle is actually pushing both indicators with Rainier Tower rising to become the 2nd tallest in Seattle just south of the Amazon district on 4th Avenue.

https://www.thestranger.com/slog/201...est-skyscraper
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