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View Poll Results: What state(s) has seen the most demographic change?
Texas 18 40.00%
Massachusetts/Rhode Island 3 6.67%
Florida 9 20.00%
California 16 35.56%
Minnesota 3 6.67%
Nevada 6 13.33%
Georgia 6 13.33%
Arizona 4 8.89%
North Carolina 10 22.22%
Other (please specify) 2 4.44%
Demographic Change has been generally equal in the US 1 2.22%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2019, 10:06 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I never realized it but yes NY and Floridaís demographics are eerily similar. I havenít put NY up there because I really do think itís essentially the same as 1990, just less white. Same for NJ. Always been diverse and had the same image. Growth in minority populations has occurred as expected, where expected.

Florida has seemingly had a role reversal between balck and Hispanics and a huge surge in northerners. And a shift in politics toward the left pretty dramatically.
Yeah Florida is pretty cosmopolitan especially South Florida. A lot of people in South Florida forget that they are in the South (the nonwhite natives that is and those whose parents moved from up north). North Florida is pretty much classic Florida with mostly Black and White but here in Jacksonville you have a strong Southeast Asian community and a growing Hispanic population. Jacksonville has the largest Flipino community in the south. Jacksonville is still a pretty Black and White city but it definitely benefits from being in Florida.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:38 AM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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I don't get how you could have left Tennessee out of the Mix here, especially how much things have changed in and around all 4 of its Major metros, not to mention Booming Nashville with its large Kurdish and Hispanic population and on up into Clarksville, TN of all places, very diverse area. Hispanics are running high numbers in Tennessee right now,,, should be in your list up top...
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:41 AM
 
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I never realized it but yes NY and Floridaís demographics are eerily similar. I havenít put NY up there because I really do think itís essentially the same as 1990, just less white. Same for NJ. Always been diverse and had the same image. Growth in minority populations has occurred as expected, where expected.

Florida has seemingly had a role reversal between balck and Hispanics and a huge surge in northerners. And a shift in politics toward the left pretty dramatically.
Some interesting information in regards to the bolded section...

NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3602066
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3604143
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3606607
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3608026
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3608257
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3613552
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3621105
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3624273
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3628640
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3633139
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3637044
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3637737
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3638077
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3651055
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3650067
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3663506

NJ: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3402080
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3403580
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3405170
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3410750
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3420260
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3432250
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3428680
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3424420
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3461530
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3466570

Source(and can do this with other states or even by metro area): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...0/Default.aspx
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Boston
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I don't get how you could have left Tennessee out of the Mix here, especially how much things have changed in and around all 4 of its Major metros, not to mention Booming Nashville with its large Kurdish and Hispanic population and on up into Clarksville, TN of all places, very diverse area. Hispanics are running high numbers in Tennessee right now,,, should be in your list up top...
Because TN is the closest state to MA in non Hispanic white population and Iíve been watching MA diversify and approach and then past Tennessee for about a decade. Iíll take another look but I may be biased against TN because itís a state Iíve used as comparison to MA for a long time and Iíve watched as MA diversified much more quickly than Tennessee.

It also just strikes me as a states gaining a lot of young whites from the Midwest and the north. Thatís the only large change Iíve been aware of. A growing but still small Mexican population could be said about the vast majority of states.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Some interesting information in regards to the bolded section...

NY: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3602066
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3604143
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3606607
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3608026
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3608257
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3613552
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3621105
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3624273
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3628640
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3633139
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3637044
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3637737
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3638077
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3651055
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3650067
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3663506

NJ: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3402080
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3403580
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3405170
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3410750
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3420260
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3432250
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3428680
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3424420
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3461530
https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=3466570

Source(and can do this with other states or even by metro area): https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...0/Default.aspx
Suburbs like Central Islip NY that weíre only 62% white in 1990 I would expect to diversify a lot because they were already considered highly diverse for the time. In other words, you could see it coming. Most changes in NJ and NY anyone could easily see coming. Still, the rate of diversification there has definitely been substantial-as it has for the entire urban northeast.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:27 AM
 
Location: ATLANTA
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Because TN is the closest state to MA in non Hispanic white population and I’ve been watching MA diversify and approach and then past Tennessee for about a decade. I’ll take another look but I may be biased against TN because it’s a state I’ve used as comparison to MA for a long time and I’ve watched as MA diversified much more quickly than Tennessee.

It also just strikes me as a states gaining a lot of young whites from the Midwest and the north. That’s the only large change I’ve been aware of. A growing but still small Mexican population could be said about the vast majority of states.

You might want to check that and it does deserve to be included just as North Carolina, Georgia, or any of the other southern states you have included especially in recent years. Immigration from out side the US in Tennessee made a net increase of almost 67,000. Not to mentions people of all races relocating to TN from the Northeast, Midwest, Florida, California, etc... You couldn't have been to Nashville or Tenn lately to not know how large the Hispanic population is their..

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Old 10-03-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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You might want to check that and it does deserve to be included just as North Carolina, Georgia, or any of the other southern states you have included especially in recent years. Immigration from out side the US in Tennessee made a net increase of almost 67,000. Not to mentions people of all races relocating to TN from the Northeast, Midwest, Florida, California, etc... You couldn't have been to Nashville or Tenn lately to not know how large the Hispanic population is their..
I had a High School civics teacher who was stationed in TN in the 90s and he saw Mexicans back then.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Suburbs like Central Islip NY that weíre only 62% white in 1990 I would expect to diversify a lot because they were already considered highly diverse for the time. In other words, you could see it coming. Most changes in NJ and NY anyone could easily see coming. Still, the rate of diversification there has definitely been substantial-as it has for the entire urban northeast.
The Mid-Atlantic has been pretty diverse for decades New England is just starting to catch up.
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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The Mid-Atlantic has been pretty diverse for decades New England is just starting to catch up.
Depends on where in the region too. Some places in the region that were ahead of the curve, Bridgeport: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=908000

New Haven: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=952000

Hartford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=937000

Waterbury: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=980000

Stamford: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=973000

Norwalk: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=955990

New London: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...?cityid=952280

Springfield: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2567000

Cambridge: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2511000

Boston: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=2507000

Providence: https://s4.ad.brown.edu/projects/div...cityid=4459000
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Old 10-03-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Boston
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The Mid-Atlantic has been pretty diverse for decades New England is just starting to catch up.
Most of the significant demographic change in MA/RI i think began in the mid 2000s and CT probably sometime in the early/mid 1990s.

MA/RI is probably 25-30 years behind NY/NJ demographically. Connecticut is more like 20 years behind.

The rate of change in Southern New England has been pretty rapid but I doubt they will ever be as diverse as NY/NJ because those states continue to quickly diversify as well.
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