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Old 10-27-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by opossum1 View Post
I had been on a long all-over-US trip (still ongoing) and had a conversation with a Southerner who ended up moving up North to New England, mainly because of them not accepting existing culture in the South including being quite liberal politically. This person had claimed that since I have a foreign accent (I'm an immigrant from Northern Europe) I'd experience either hostility or lack of acceptance in the Southern states (even though people may hide it and it not be right in-my-face). For example, when I mentioned friendliness of strangers (waving, etc) in one particular Southern town, this person had told me "Do you think they'd be friendly towards you if they heard you accent?"

I know there's certain truth to this, from my past experience of living in the South (but it was very long time ago) - and in some places in the South people just don't really like anyone who's not local, frankly.

I wonder if many people in the South generally dislike encountering someone with an accent?
I wonder the same thing about Midwest - as Midwest, just like the South doesn't have a lot of immigrants and people are less used to them or to the accents.

I can understand how some people may dislike foreign accents. To be honest, I, myself, grew to dislike them after decades in the States...I like to hear American accents but dislike almost any foreign accent (it might have to do with noisy European tourists arriving late to my favorite National Parks, which seem to be flooded by them now, and making much inconsiderate noise).
I dare anyone here to live anywhere while being me.

No matter what part of the country I go to (or probably the world), many people will point out that I don't look like everyone else, speak or seem like an American even though I was born and raised here in the U.S. So of course, I do not have a foreign accent, yet I do have some sort of mix of cultural and regional dialects for never really having any hometown. The lack of family and close friendship connections or anyone who cares forces me to imitate the locals the best I can just to get by. Even that fails most of the time.

At least you can call yourself an immigrant from Northern Europe. I cannot claim being from anywhere.

Be grateful for being who you are.
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Old 10-28-2019, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Enean View Post
Yes, let's always listen to what "they" say. The ubiquitous "they." If people don't realize that there is no such thing as "they", I'm sorry for them.
There's a thing called REPUTATION and public opinion and they are usually...right (the only person you should feel sorry for is...let's just say it's not them)
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Old 10-28-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by opossum1 View Post
Perhaps their view is affected by the way their family is. My understanding is that their family is very hardcore-Southern-oldtimers and were very mad that this person married a "yankee" from New York State. Perhaps they're basing their view of entire South on their extended family. Also, this person is in their 60s, so they're speaking from old-timer standpoint.
There are definitely southerners who have moved to the north and built their identity around how they are a sophisticated person who escaped a less enlightened atmosphere. In fact, most southern towns and people are not that one-dimensional haha. I'd say you would be fine anywhere in the South.
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Old 10-28-2019, 01:53 PM
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Yes I definitely noticed that person was kind of looking down on their Southern homeland portraying it as if there're only hardcore, fanatical, far-right-wing hicks live there and themselves being a sophisticated hippy-sh type who moved to refined and progressive New England to escape that. They said they even were sickened by the sight of typical Southern rural properties because they reminded them of oppressive Southern social atmosphere (which I found to be looking lovely, not being from there). They must have really had it bad in the South because they kept saying how great that it's 4% property tax rate where they live now and happy to pay it (even though all roads were full of potholes, food astronomically expensive and no services available).

Looking back, I'd say I really liked the way Southerners interacted (save few bad apples)...I did not feel their niceness was superficial and some kind of culturally conditioned outside-only politeness. I found people some in parts of the very rural South to be quite vibrant and people to be interesting and have certain deep sophistication that you actually don't see in the similar size towns in rural North. I'm from a huge Northern city in Europe, by the way. If anything, I found the US North to be more plain, either corn-fed kind of vibes in some places or rough lumber/mining/port type of gritty vibes, if anything (I speak about small towns and rural). I'd say that population in many (not all) of even isolated small Southern towns seemed to be not one-dimensional, definitely ... and there seem to be transplants from all over in many of these places.

By the way, all these KY folks waved at me even though they must have seen my California plates. How's that?

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