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Old 10-21-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Austin, TX?
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Old 10-21-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Austin, TX?
Texas has enough teams. Spread the wealth around.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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So we are counting Tier one pro women’s soccer for Louisville? You won’t find a bigger Louisville fan than me but I am not sure women’s pro sports count...or do they?

And no minor league pro teams don’t count
To me, it has to be one of the big four leagues. We have MILB teams locally. They're professional, but not tier one and definitely not special.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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Texas has enough teams. Spread the wealth around.
But would this not be the largest MSA without a professional team? Unless I'm missing a team that's based there. The metro is over 2 million.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, New Mexico
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I said it in the other thread about major league expansions, but if Albuquerque ever gets a major pro team I think it will be in MLS. The New Mexico United finished its inaugural season in the USL Championship with the largest average attendance of any team, nearly two thousand more than the next best team.

2019 USL Championship regular season average attendance - Top 5

New Mexico United - 12,693
Indy Eleven - 10,734
Sacramento Republic FC - 10,436
Louisville City FC - 9,041
Las Vegas Lights FC - 7,711

https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2019...ip-attendance/

On Saturday the team slipped into the playoffs with a 2-0 win over the Las Vegas Lights in front of a crowd of 13,788 at Isotopes Park, its temporary home. The team is planning to build a stadium in the downtown area with a capacity of about 14,000-16,000. It has regularly been able to attract more than 15,000 fans to Isotopes Park and the team's owner said that he wants to build a stadium with enough capacity for those types of crowds.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:38 AM
 
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WNBA is a tier 1 league.

I would say Birmingham is a city that doesn't have a big 6.
WNBA and NWSL offer great opportunities, but attendance just doesn't put them at a tier 1 sport level. They're a little bit of a hybrid in that they do get some TV coverage, but so does arena football and I don't consider that a tier 1 pro sport.

Most recent available average attendance:

NFL- 67,100
MLB- 28,339
MLS- 21,692
NBA- 17,852
NHL- 17, 377

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NWSL- 7,337
Arena Football- 7,195
AAA Baseball (PCL and IL)- 6,635
WNBA- 6,535
AA Baseball (TL, SL, and EL)- 4,381
NBA G-League- 2,395

NWSL and WNBA are bolded since those are the ones people are debating whether they are tier 1. Above the line in my book is tier 1. Below the line, there just isn't the broad interest to general sports fans. Women's sports are a little tough, in that there are some passionate fans, but just not thd same general level of interest as men's sports. The only exception may be the USWNT vs USMNT popularity, but if the men's team was as successful internationally as the women's my guess is more people would follow the men's team. For soccer as a whole, MLS is still much more popular than NWSL.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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But would this not be the largest MSA without a professional team? Unless I'm missing a team that's based there. The metro is over 2 million.
Riverside at 4.6 million is the largest MSA without a major team. Incidentally, depending on your viewpoint, Austin is getting a MLS franchise so they may be off the list.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:59 AM
 
Location: East Tennessee and Atlanta
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Definitely Virginia Beach/Norfolk, VA areas, or Richmond, VA.

Also, Austin needs 1-2 more teams, (could support I think), and Birmingham or Hartford, CT could use teams.

I think Louisville's best logical shot is an NBA team, however, the Pacers are super close up the road, and this kind of hurts the Louisville market somewhat, since they are so geographically close. BUT, with that being said, the next closest teams are Cleveland and Memphis--so really Louisville should be able to support a team.

Is there corporate support in Louisville for an NBA team? Maybe YUM Brands or UPS would be good options. I really don't think Louisville would be a choice for an MLB, NFL or NHL team in the future, unfortunately, so NBA is their best bet.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Birmingham, AL
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Birmingham is a tough proposition. I'd love to see it, but there are many factors working against it. For starters, college football is king down here. Also, as others have mentioned, Atlanta, Nashville, Memphis and New Orleans are relatively close and all have pro teams. And let's be honest, Alabama is not a very wealthy state, nor is Birmingham a wealthy city... meaning less disposable income. Also no "mega corporations" here that might help bring a team in. Regions Bank is the only Fortune 500 company in the state.

Finally, I'm not sure which leagues will be expanding anytime soon. MLS and NBA might be the most realistic possibilities. NFL and MLB are probably extreme longshots. Not sure about NHL, although the minor league hockey team here has decent support.
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Chiraq, Crook County
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So we are counting Tier one pro women’s soccer for Louisville? You won’t find a bigger Louisville fan than me but I am not sure women’s pro sports count...or do they?

And no minor league pro teams don’t count
Nah, I didn't put Louisville in because it was already mentioned in the initial post. But yes, Louisville is probably the biggest example out there of a major city lacking tier 1 sports.
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