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Old 11-01-2019, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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I get that, but I also think and know that there are some that are honestly "afraid" or have a fear of going into the core city.

Even bigger core cities have such neighborhoods: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9882...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9898...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4351...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6466...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
No one goes to a city to see that.
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Old 11-03-2019, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Center City
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As for suburban neighborhoods in the middle of big urban areas - I get that they exist. They are not the norm though for urban living. .
Actually, in our country they are. Outside of the handful of dense legacy cities, most of the sunbelt cities are suburban in feel. When I moved to Houston (the nation’s fourth largest city, btw) looking for a place to live, I kept looking for “the city.” What I found was a collection of business centers where virtually no one lived surrounded by suburban-like neighborhoods.

I moved to a single-family house five minutes from the CBD with my own yard well inside inside 610 loop. Friends from outside the loop would often visit exclaiming how lucky I was to live in the city. Always felt suburban (less than urban) to me, but there you have it. Here is a view from a typical Montrose street, minutes from City Hall https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403...7i16384!8i8192

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Old 11-03-2019, 10:59 AM
 
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Actually, in our country they are. Outside of the handful of dense legacy cities, most of the sunbelt cities are suburban in feel. When I moved to Houston (the nation’s fourth largest city, btw) looking for a place to live, I kept looking for “the city.” What I found was a collection of business centers where virtually no one lived surrounded by suburban-like neighborhoods.

I moved to a single-family house five minutes from the CBD with my own yard well inside inside 610 loop. Friends from outside the loop would often visit exclaiming how lucky I was to live in the city. Always felt suburban (less than urban) to me, but there you have it. Here is a view from a typical Montrose street, minutes from City Hall https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7403...7i16384!8i8192
That location is really nice for being inside a city. I am impressed.
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Old 11-03-2019, 01:38 PM
 
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I get that, but I also think and know that there are some that are honestly "afraid" or have a fear of going into the core city.

Even bigger core cities have such neighborhoods: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9882...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9898...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.4351...2!9m2!1b1!2i37

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6466...2!9m2!1b1!2i37
But these areas are more removed from the Cores of their cities. Philly's is its farther Northwest Area I believe. Totally unlike the rest of the city that has a built environment of 60% row-homes and blocks. The region keeps it from being 80% rows or much more as a point.

Nice areas but not areas visitors, tourist or those in a city for work/business see. All major cites have some. Just some less within its city-proper's.

But do residents in most suburban areas of major cities...... go more regularly into the Cores...... unless they work there? It's basically, the same situation as the question to Suburbanites for the thread. Especially if their neighborhood is more removed from their major city Cores, by more miles then blocks.

We all know that..... most of our fast growing Sunbelt cities. Get more suburban much faster closer to their Cores then much longer earlier built-up cites early in the 20th century and before. Nothing new in that.
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Old 11-03-2019, 02:26 PM
 
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No one goes to a city to see that.
Sure, but again, my point is that core cities aren’t monolithic in environment.
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Old 11-03-2019, 02:27 PM
 
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But these areas are more removed from the Cores of their cities. Philly's is its farther Northwest Area I believe. Totally unlike the rest of the city that has a built environment of 60% row-homes and blocks. The region keeps it from being 80% rows or much more as a point.

Nice areas but not areas visitors, tourist or those in a city for work/business see. All major cites have some. Just some less within its city-proper's.

But do residents in most suburban areas of major cities...... go more regularly into the Cores...... unless they work there? It's basically, the same situation as the question to Suburbanites for the thread. Especially if their neighborhood is more removed from their major city Cores, by more miles then blocks.

We all know that..... most of our fast growing Sunbelt cities. Get more suburban much faster closer to their Cores then much longer earlier built-up cites early in the 20th century and before. Nothing new in that.
No, these are all neighborhoods in those core cities, which is what the thread is about. Keep in mind that OP is talking about the core city. I take that as the city proper center or centers of a metro.
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Old 11-03-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Roanoke, VA
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HA in Roanoke you have people who won't go downtown because they would have to look for a parking space!
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Old 11-03-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Center City
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That location is really nice for being inside a city. I am impressed.
Pretty much every city, no matter how urban, has leafy sun-splashed neighborhoods inside their city limits. For example, here is a Philadelphia neighborhood only about 10 miles from city hall: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0677...7i16384!8i8192

The difference is that sunbelt cities can't offer urbanity on this level:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9494...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9435...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.9703...7i16384!8i8192
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