Metros where the suburbanites are 'afraid' of the core city? (crime rates, homes)

[Taggerung]

Originally Posted by Enigma777

What is a "core city"? Do you mean 'downtown'? Many downtowns have been regenerated and gentrified and are where you head to go out at night, shop, go to events, etc. It is also where many of the jobs are.

Suburbia has big box stores, chain restaurants, the occasional local eatery and mind-numbing sameness--which is why the risk-averse prefer to live there. Familiarity.

By 'core City' I mean the 1950 city limits.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by iAMtheVVALRUS

Tons of smaller cities in MA fall into this category. Frontrunners would probably be Lawrence, Brockton, and Holyoke. Next step down would be Springfield, Lynn, Fitchburg, and Chelsea. Then some fear exists about Lowell, New Bedford, Haverhill, Fall River, and maybe Worcester. Lowell and Worcester have been getting better from a public perception POV over the last 2 decades or so.

everyone likes to crap on whatever neighbor's they imagine as worse off than them. Growing up kids in towns like Chester and Atkinson would crap on Salem, NH. Salem kids would crap on Haverhill and Nashua. Nashua kids would crap on Lowell and Haverhill kids would crap on Lawrence.

Half the time the kids talking were ones who lived in worse neighborhoods than the majority of the cities they're talking about. The other half it was just sheltered kids repeating what they heard from the first group.

[NDFan]

Baltimore, Philadelphia historically (largely not true anymore with the revitalization of Philly over the past 25 years or so), Minneapolis (more than you'd think), Chicago to some extent (similar to Philly; less than it used to be).

[SunGrins]

Originally Posted by mjtinmemphis

There again, the media wouldn't have anything to talk about.

There again, the media wouldn't have anything to talk about. That statement bears repeating and should be a statement crawling across the bottom of the TV during local news programs. We have about three-plus hours of local news every day on each of the major local network stations. We still don't have a million people in the metro area so I find it hard to believe that we need so much constant news coverage. Every time someone goes off the rails it is covered ad nause3am until we can all pretty much repeat the stories from memory. If there is a gas station robbery on one side of town the whole city goes into a tail spin thinking it is only a block away after watching it 3 or 4 times on the news.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by Space_League

everyone likes to crap on whatever neighbor's they imagine as worse off than them. Growing up kids in towns like Chester and Atkinson would crap on Salem, NH. Salem kids would crap on Haverhill and Nashua. Nashua kids would crap on Lowell and Haverhill kids would crap on Lawrence.

Half the time the kids talking were ones who lived in worse neighborhoods than the majority of the cities they're talking about. The other half it was just sheltered kids repeating what they heard from the first group.

How it works in Massachusetts

Town ~5% Richer: Snobby rich brats

Towns 5% poorer: Super trashy

[po-boy]

Memphis and Baltimore were the first two I thought of. Birmingham used to have a whole lot of this, but it is less now.

[potanta]

I felt like New Jersey's NYC suburbs were like this in the past where people would cherish our great suburbs too much where people would generally avoid NYC, but they mainly avoid the ghetto cities NJ has like Newark. Due to the lack of jobs in NJ's great and easily drieveable neighborhoods, people have no choice, but to work in NYC. As of now, I think people are less afraid of NYC, because they can't find jobs out here. I am afraid going into a city every day for work, which is why I can't live somewhere like NJ where I am required to go to a scary core city just to have a job.

[NDFan]

Originally Posted by potanta

I felt like New Jersey's NYC suburbs were like this in the past where people would cherish our great suburbs too much where people would generally avoid NYC, but they mainly avoid the ghetto cities NJ has like Newark. Due to the lack of jobs in NJ's great and easily drieveable neighborhoods, people have no choice, but to work in NYC. As of now, I think people are less afraid of NYC, because they can't find jobs out here. I am afraid going into a city every day for work, which is why I can't live somewhere like NJ where I am required to go to a scary core city just to have a job.

I think this is mostly no longer true of NYC itself, but is more true of places like Newark and Paterson.

[potanta]

Originally Posted by NDFan

I think this is mostly no longer true of NYC itself, but is more true of places like Newark and Paterson.

And the thing that sucks about NJ is that we do not have the core city within our borders, so we consider Camden and Newark as NJ's core cities. That's what people try to avoid (and Paterson too).

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

How it works in Massachusetts

Town ~5% Richer: Snobby rich brats

Towns 5% poorer: Super trashy

exactly