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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Oh God, some people would have to re-learn things, even though it makes things easier in the long run. Are American children so lazy/incompetent they can't learn both?
Why should they have to? System works fine for us..if it doesn't work for foreigners here in the US..simple..go home

 
Old 06-03-2008, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Cold Frozen North
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Why should they have to? System works fine for us..if it doesn't work for foreigners here in the US..simple..go home
I defintely agree. It seems like here in the US we have to be concerned about what everyone in the world thinks, yet they don't have to be concerned about what we think. What gives!
 
Old 06-03-2008, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Wrong, absolutely wrong. Most of this country is already split into a 1x1 mile grid system, in both rural and urban areas. There is no way we can ever go to the metric system now. The "English units" are already permanently seared into the national geography.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 04:12 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Wrong, absolutely wrong. Most of this country is already split into a 1x1 mile grid system, in both rural and urban areas. There is no way we can ever go to the metric system now. The "English units" are already permanently seared into the national geography.
Doesn't matter. We can still measure that in metric. The necessity of a sq. mi. grid system might be geocentric for Las Vegas and the inter-mountain western cities though (definitely not for L.A. or S.F.). Most people live in the East and there is no logical 1x1 square grid system (Manhattan) or none at all (Boston and Lower Manhattan). In the Southeastern cities, the roads out of town follow the hills so there are twists-and-turns. The NoVa suburbs around Washington is a good example--U.S. 29 intersects I-66 five times, three within the Capital Beltway.

Now if you're referring to the Public Land Survey system, that might need some resurveying because the meridians and base lines don't match up. Luckily that system isn't used in Texas, Hawaii or the Eastern states. It's too confusing and convoluted anyway! With metes-and-bounds I just type in the land description exactly.

There is vast empty land on the Northwest quadrant of Houston that can be turned into 1x1 km grid system.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 04:18 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Why should they have to? System works fine for us..if it doesn't work for foreigners here in the US..simple..go home
Actually it's a reminder of British oppression. The foot is from an unelected ruler, not the leader of the people. Second of all, why make it harder for immigrants to integrate into American society? It's hard enough to learn a new language.

Third why jeopardize our economy by not metricating? No one will buy items that can't be serviced using the metric tools that are only available in other parts of the world. It will ruin our reputation as American products will be considered trash because it's impossible to repair due to the inferior design.

Example: If a Boeing plane breaks down in China, what kind of tools will be available? Metric wrenches, screws, etc. If it requires a Colonial wrench, screw, etc. forget it since China doesn't want to be colonized by Great Britain too since it's based on the measurements of their King and his items.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 04:30 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Our system sucks. It's not even our system, it's the English system and the English themselves have changed to the metric system.
Oddly enough! They are almost metric since they retain a few things like beer must be sold by the pint or roadsigns with any metric measurements are illegal even in tandem with the Imperial measurement (in this the U.S. is ahead of the U.K.).

They do sell petrol by the litre and use the more environmentally-friendly A4 paper.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 05:51 PM
 
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The metric system is superior than the Imperial system and we should have changed over decades ago. However doing so now presents some serious logistical problems.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 09:55 PM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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The metric system is superior than the Imperial system and we should have changed over decades ago. However doing so now presents some serious logistical problems.
Hindsight is 20/20. But your statement is just like saying in early 1700's Britain and it's colonies that we should've changed over to the Gregorian Calendar in 1582 when it was introduced and changing over in 1752 would present some serious logistical problems. If the calendar was changed over in 2008, not only paper calendars would be useless but calendars on mobile phones and other non-upgradeable portable devices would also be rotting in the landfills.

Imagine how much worse the problem would be if arguments like "Samuel Peppy's Diary cannot be understood by future generations since now the dates are out of whack and the rules of the Julian Calendar as observed in Britain are long forgotten."; "The year has to start out in the springtime."; or the worst case scenario, Anti-Catholic rhetoric!

It wasn't a problem throwing out those old calendars and buying new ones in September 1752 because almost 25 years later the Declaration of Independence was signed and it opens with: "In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776." Is Samuel Peppy's Diary still relevant to American culture or is the document in Philadelphia more relevant?
 
Old 06-04-2008, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Savannah GA/Lk Hopatcong NJ
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Actually it's a reminder of British oppression. The foot is from an unelected ruler, not the leader of the people. Second of all, why make it harder for immigrants to integrate into American society? It's hard enough to learn a new language.
Third why jeopardize our economy by not metricating? No one will buy items that can't be serviced using the metric tools that are only available in other parts of the world. It will ruin our reputation as American products will be considered trash because it's impossible to repair due to the inferior design.

Example: If a Boeing plane breaks down in China, what kind of tools will be available? Metric wrenches, screws, etc. If it requires a Colonial wrench, screw, etc. forget it since China doesn't want to be colonized by Great Britain too since it's based on the measurements of their King and his items.
Please!!! Don't even get me started on that statement.
If you want to emigrate to the US you need to assimilate once here. if what you are leaving is so great ..why leave?

How easy do you think other countries make it for their immigrants??

British oppression.... how many centuries ago was the Revolutionary War?? British oppression..please..they are one of our staunchest allies now..
 
Old 06-04-2008, 08:13 AM
 
Location: C.R. K-T
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Please!!! Don't even get me started on that statement.
If you want to emigrate to the US you need to assimilate once here. if what you are leaving is so great ..why leave?

How easy do you think other countries make it for their immigrants??

British oppression.... how many centuries ago was the Revolutionary War?? British oppression..please..they are one of our staunchest allies now..
Wow so anti-immigrant! We're having complaints about the difficulty of some integrating into society and people like you just sabotage it. How about learning the Julian Calendar and £sd.? (BTW it's May 22 today NOT JUNE 4.) Even £sd. is so easy. It's just £1=20s.=12d. Read the other post for the names of the coins and their values.

Is Britain really our ally? They have been trying to subvert our country for many years since they are still bitter. The Colonial measurement system has been foisted upon us as a timebomb for the American way of life to collapse. Ironically Britain is 90% metricated. Why make it easier for them to invade with the miles on the interstates?

Why would a Republican country have anything to do with the Monarchist Measuring system anyway? It is a stumbling block for getting people interested in science, especially with anti-evolution Christian fundamentalism in popularity. Young minds have been disadvantaged even before the start of the first science class since they cannot understand the language of science! No wonder American has been behind in science and the technological innovations come from South Korea and other places in Asia.

So why is everyone fussing so much about this? Are we British or are we American?
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