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In America, we generally consider Asian to be what we used to call Oriental referring to Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese. Now we call them Asian but that leaves out a huge number of people on the Asian continent like Indians, Iranians, and Arabs. it would be better to come up with a better term, if indeed we really need one at all which is a whole other subject.
In America, we generally consider Asian to be what we used to call Oriental referring to Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese. Now we call them Asian but that leaves out a huge number of people on the Asian continent like Indians, Iranians, and Arabs. it would be better to come up with a better term, if indeed we really need one at all which is a whole other subject.
Well, according to the US census, as radraja mentioned, Asians from Persia westwards and Central Asians are considered White (green area), yet even in the turquoise area, many, if not most, Indonesians and Indians are racially very distinct from East Asians (Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, etc.).
China, India, and Indonesia constitute the 1st, 2nd, and 4th largest countries in the world, yet their populations are deemed to be of one race.
There are black, white, native American and (yes, really) Asian Latinos. Most Latinos are mestizos which is a mixture of Caucasian European descent and native American blood. There can not be a black or white Asian, with some VERY notable exceptions listed in this thread, although they would technically still not be considered Asian despite living/originating in Asia, at least by the US census definition, such as Arabs.
Basically, there are only really three "real" races anyhow, caucasoid, negroid, and mongolid. Everything thing else that we use is a U.S census created umbrella term.
There are black, white, native American and (yes, really) Asian Latinos. Most Latinos are mestizos which is a mixture of Caucasian European descent and native American blood. There can not be a black or white Asian, with some VERY notable exceptions listed in this thread, although they would technically still not be considered Asian despite living/originating in Asia, at least by the US census definition, such as Arabs.
Basically, there are only really three "real" races anyhow, caucasoid, negroid, and mongolid. Everything thing else that we use is a U.S census created umbrella term.
arent most of us mongrels if we really shook the family tree a bit?
I suppose some folks would be appalled if they really looked at what fell out of their respective trees.
arent most of us mongrels if we really shook the family tree a bit?
I suppose some folks would be appalled if they really looked at what fell out of their respective trees.
If you shake the family tree, you're bound to get a few nuts!
This is a picture of Melanesians, yet many Indonesians look just like them.
Most Indians don't look "Asian", either.
Yet these people are considered to be of the same race as Koreans.
Btw, Melanesians and Australian Aborigines fall into the "racial" category of Pacific Islanders in America. Often grouped together with the "Asian" and/or "Native American" race.
Pretty clever way to disguise the bigger picture there. Let's just quote from the particular sentence that you mutilated.
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Originally Posted by compelled to reply
There can not be a black or white Asian, with some VERY notable exceptions listed in this thread, although they would technically still not be considered Asian despite living/originating in Asia, at least by the US census definition, such as Arabs.
Even if my sentence was as narrow as what you quoted, you still didn't make a compelling argument. Would you ever think a native of the Greek Isles is of the same "race" as a Nordic, Scottish or Ukrainian person? Well technically they are. Look no further than kshe's post to see why.
I apologize if my toned seemed harsh, I just didn't think the way you quoted my post was appropriate. To me that was like putting words in my mouth. If that was not your intention, I apologize for wrongly accusing you.
Last edited by compelled to reply; 06-08-2008 at 12:06 AM..
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