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Old 10-03-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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The chances of the Rust Belt ever recovering are next to nothing. If it wasnít for all the deindustrialization in the first place then the Rust Belt would be doing a whole lot better now than itís actually. Donít think gentrification will work, because that only benefits the more privileged and just makes neighborhoods more expensive. As you know the better days of this country are behind us.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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^ what exactly is "rust belt" though? Central areas of Detroit and Cleveland. The cities of Flint, Youngstown and some other smaller industrial areas.

It's confusing when people say "rust belt" like it's some region or widespread area. I mean even the suburbs of Cleveland and Detroit which are right outside the city aren't "rust belt". It mainly represents areas within those cities or select areas outside of them.

It's a very finite list of places and neighborhoods that are being spoken about.
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Old 10-03-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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I don't have anything to add, I just hate the term "Rustbelt" though.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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^ what exactly is "rust belt" though? Central areas of Detroit and Cleveland. The cities of Flint, Youngstown and some other smaller industrial areas.

It's confusing when people say "rust belt" like it's some region or widespread area. I mean even the suburbs of Cleveland and Detroit which are right outside the city aren't "rust belt". It mainly represents areas within those cities or select areas outside of them.

It's a very finite list of places and neighborhoods that are being spoken about.
Pittsburgh is the opposite. Inner city Pittsburgh is not rust best. The out lying industrial areas are the definition on rust belt.
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Old 10-04-2017, 01:52 AM
 
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I always thought rust belt meant the northern part of the Midwest that gets those freakishly cold winters with heavy snow/ice that requires so much salt laid down that everyone's cars rust out in five years. Am I incorrect?
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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I always thought rust belt meant the northern part of the Midwest that gets those freakishly cold winters with heavy snow/ice that requires so much salt laid down that everyone's cars rust out in five years. Am I incorrect?
No, it refers to neighborhoods/cities/areas that suffered deindustrialization.

Something people may not realize about manufacturing in the United States is that manufacturing employment peaked in 1979. So, since then, there have been policy aspects and the US business tax rates in comparison to other countries have played a part in why the "Rust Belt" is the way it is, in parts.
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Old 10-04-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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^ what exactly is "rust belt" though? Central areas of Detroit and Cleveland. The cities of Flint, Youngstown and some other smaller industrial areas.

It's confusing when people say "rust belt" like it's some region or widespread area. I mean even the suburbs of Cleveland and Detroit which are right outside the city aren't "rust belt". It mainly represents areas within those cities or select areas outside of them.

It's a very finite list of places and neighborhoods that are being spoken about.
I live in northeast TN. My hometown is a heavy manufacturing town that has really taken it on the chin in the last twenty years or so.

No one would consider upper east TN Rust Belt, but we have a lot more in common with Flint than Nashville.
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:06 AM
 
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Honestly, I don't know. There's been a huge cultural shift and society is essentially stuck in a cycle that feeds itself -- in the post-manufacturing age, companies increasingly want to be in dense, highly educated areas with decent mass transit systems and high ranking schools. So what begins to happen is the same cities/metro areas attract the top notch companies making it impossible for other cities to compete because they don't have the very thing that is causing companies to not want to relocate there to begin with.

Until the rust belt is able to re-attract large, well paying jobs I don't see how they can rebound. Everything all goes back to jobs, once you can bring in jobs and good companies, the people will follow.
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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We can’t even agree on what the Rust Belt is. Boston, Philadelphia and Baltimore saw population declines similar to Chicago’s, but no one calls those Rust Belt cities. I’d say every northeastern city below the second-tier (DC, BOS, PHI) could reasonably be described as rustbelt.
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Old 10-04-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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Honestly, I don't know. There's been a huge cultural shift and society is essentially stuck in a cycle that feeds itself -- in the post-manufacturing age, companies increasingly want to be in dense, highly educated areas with decent mass transit systems and high ranking schools. So what begins to happen is the same cities/metro areas attract the top notch companies making it impossible for other cities to compete because they don't have the very thing that is causing companies to not want to relocate there to begin with.

Until the rust belt is able to re-attract large, well paying jobs I don't see how they can rebound. Everything all goes back to jobs, once you can bring in jobs and good companies, the people will follow.
Another part of the problem is that there are jobs in these areas, but what you'll find is a mismatch of skills/labor within a portion of the current population for said job openings in these areas.

Some "Rust Belt" areas actually have some of the things mentioned in the first part of the post, to a degree, but said areas can also be stereotyped. So, people assume what is actually in these areas without considering educational institutions/area school districts, possible public transportation options and other social institutions. Basically, image or perception of marketability comes into play as well.
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