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Old 11-11-2017, 12:55 PM
 
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Populations aren't capitalist economies. While there is an argument that on a large scale, like countries, growth is bound to return to shrinking populations, the same is not usually said for cities except by some hopefuls on this forum. While it is unlikely for a city to grow rapidly indefinitely, it is certainly possible for even once major urban areas to completely empty out, suddenly or gradually, while there are also cities (by which I do not mean municipalities) which have, as a whole, generally grown in population for many centuries straight, if not longer. It would be naive to believe either that just because a city is in decline now it is bound for a revitalization or that just because a city in growing it is bound to hit a wall.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Populations aren't capitalist economies. While there is an argument that on a large scale, like countries, growth is bound to return to shrinking populations, the same is not usually said for cities except by some hopefuls on this forum. While it is unlikely for a city to grow rapidly indefinitely, it is certainly possible for even once major urban areas to completely empty out, suddenly or gradually, while there are also cities (by which I do not mean municipalities) which have, as a whole, generally grown in population for many centuries straight, if not longer. It would be naive to believe either that just because a city is in decline now it is bound for a revitalization or that just because a city in growing it is bound to hit a wall.
This can go both ways. So, it will depend on what occurs within each city/area and with personal preferences.
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Old 11-11-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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This can go both ways. So, it will depend on what occurs within each city/area and with personal preferences.
Exactly. Some people on this forum act like the Rust Belt just has to have another demographic (or economic resurgence although that is not the focus of my post) like it is destiny, based on the fact that it had a bad second half of the 1900s while others believe Sunbelt cities (which have been "booming" for less than a century) are bound to decline because of its recent growth. Past growth patterns are not signs of things to come. Or, if they were, they would be weak signs pointing in the opposite direction, not some yin-yang cycle of growth and decline. I can see the latter as happening but not the former, and for the exact same reasons-population growth in the US is clearly slowing, currently at a rate far below that of the 1800s and 1900s, and so I do not see any part of the nation starting to grow in the way Rust Belt cities did in the early to mid 1900s or in the way Sunbelt cities did and continue to do since then, including the Sunbelt. That is not to say I believe Sunbelt cities will necessarily decline, they may just see slower growth or stagnate.
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Old 09-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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I'm interested to know what peoples opinions are with this discussion with some of the better economic news coming out of the Rust Belt cities these days.
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