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Los Angeles: traffic, real estate, mortgage, metropolitan city, earthquake survival.

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Old 06-25-2008, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Long, brutal winters are a beautiful thing.
For eskimos, maybe.
I prefer nice, mild winters. Like below (taken last December):


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Old 06-25-2008, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Long, brutal winters are a beautiful thing.
Sure are, keeps the ******* out.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I can assure you that Angelenos do not relocate to Chicago if they leave California. Las Vegas has a large number of former residents of LA; so does Arizona/Oregon/Washington/Hawaii.

My family is 5 generation Californio & are quite happy living all over the state, including Los Angeles. There was a discussion comparing Los Angeles with Chicago & a poster claimed that Californian's vacation in Illinois, right

I like Chicago, but like many out here, could never even consider living in a climate of long brutal winters no matter how nice the city.
A LOT of ex-Chicagoans have moved to L.A. and many have come back, I can assure you. I happen to work with 2 ex-Californians and have a friend of a friend who is also an ex-Californian. On top of it all I see more and more California plates on a daily basis than ever before. Wanna know why? Maybe they want to be back in some nice suburbs, pay A LOT less for A LOT more home, and have access to Chicago and all that it offers. Im sure that L.A. offers TONS as well (naturally) and has great weather for most of the year, but Chicago just seems a lot more urban than L.A. does, and that attracts people, especially considering today's gas prices and COL, and Chicago trumps L.A. in terms of PT and COL.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:13 AM
 
Location: suburbia
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Of course many Californians aren't going to vacation outside of Chicago, but they still come to see the city, I'm sure.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Where you wish you lived, LA
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Of course many Californians aren't going to vacation outside of Chicago, but they still come to see the city, I'm sure.
people in L.A consider vegas a vacation...on the whole chicago could be cleveland for all most angelenos know.

yes chicagos urban and "city-like" but to most of us here, its just another big city in flyover country...its not even "on-par" with nyc to us
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:38 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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inferiority complex

This is why
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:43 PM
 
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I'm entirely positive in my believe that people in California couldn't even point to the Ozarks on a map. Texas, now, they go to Texas often, but Kansas? This I do not believe, nor have I seen any support evidencing it.

Secondly, how flattering would you find it if your state or neighborhood was a national refugee camp for people who would do anything to be "someplace better"? It's not exactly a compliment to be the banishment grounds for people who will never view your state as someplace they would consider living longterm.

FYI, a majority of Kansas City's metropolitan area is in Missouri. Same goes for the population.

California exists because of people looking for something better. Many of them learned otherwise.

Yes, the Ozarks are heavily flooded with ex-Californians. Trust me.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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I hate LA because I was born there which gives me every right to proclaim that that place sucks.
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:07 PM
 
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You are very lucky to be compared to New York & Chicago because they are the real cities j/k


"Comparative urbanism has few practitioners as distinguished as Janet L. Abu-Lughod. In this monumental study, Professor Abu-Lughod rescues Los Angeles from eccentricity by placing it in comparative context alongside the two most accepted urban paradigms of the United States: New York and Chicago. In doing so, she has added a new city--the City of Angels--to the front ranks of American cities and has significantly enhanced our understanding of New York and Chicago as well." —Kevin Starr, State Librarian of California

New York, Chicago, Los Angeles (http://www.upress.umn.edu/books/a/abulughod_ny.html - broken link)


And why do people hate LA? LA gets a bad rap on several things. Not saying these are facts, but perception is still just perception

- 52 suburbs in search for a city.
- sprawl
- fake, plastic people
- smog, bad traffic region.
- Lots of illegals.
- Earthquake zone

Indeed, many Americans do have a negative view towards LA as shown in this
annual survey by Travel & Leisure/CNN.


America's Favorite Cities 2007 | Cityscape | Cityscape (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

America's Favorite Cities 2007 | People | People (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

America's Favorite Cities 2007 | Characteristics | Characteristics (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

Despite all of that, LA is still an important US city. Its contribution to the entertainment industry is hard to be ignored.

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people in L.A consider vegas a vacation...on the whole chicago could be cleveland for all most angelenos know.

yes chicagos urban and "city-like" but to most of us here, its just another big city in flyover country...its not even "on-par" with nyc to us
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Old 06-25-2008, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara, California
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You are very lucky to be compared to New York & Chicago because they are the real cities j/k


"Comparative urbanism has few practitioners as distinguished as Janet L. Abu-Lughod. In this monumental study, Professor Abu-Lughod rescues Los Angeles from eccentricity by placing it in comparative context alongside the two most accepted urban paradigms of the United States: New York and Chicago. In doing so, she has added a new city--the City of Angels--to the front ranks of American cities and has significantly enhanced our understanding of New York and Chicago as well." —Kevin Starr, State Librarian of California

New York, Chicago, Los Angeles (http://www.upress.umn.edu/books/a/abulughod_ny.html - broken link)


And why do people hate LA? LA gets a bad rap on several things. Not saying these are facts, but perception is still just perception

- 52 suburbs in search for a city.
- sprawl
- fake, plastic people
- smog, bad traffic region.
- Lots of illegals.
- Earthquake zone

Indeed, many Americans do have a negative view towards LA as shown in this
annual survey by Travel & Leisure/CNN.


America's Favorite Cities 2007 | Cityscape | Cityscape (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

America's Favorite Cities 2007 | People | People (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

America's Favorite Cities 2007 | Characteristics | Characteristics (Overall) | Travel + Leisure

Despite all of that, LA is still an important US city. Its contribution to the entertainment industry is hard to be ignored.

LA is decent but it's nowhere as desirable as some Angelenos here want to believe. Go ahead, flame me all you want, but you know (or should know) that it's the truth.

It's not as "loved" as say, NYC, San Francisco or Chicago.
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