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View Poll Results: Which Building???
Chicago Spire 104 44.83%
Freedom Tower 116 50.00%
Neither 12 5.17%
Voters: 232. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-24-2008, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Chi town
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Okay...I really didn't want to get into to this, but a building that resembles a giant penis is not my idea of high art (or architecture). It's not that I'm against sexuality (it doesn't make me uncomfortable at all), and I don't feel that the designers of the Chicago Spire meant for it to be sexual in any way, but the end result is somewhat phallic, and that's not a trait I look for in architecture. I'm sorry if my own personal aesthetic preferences clash with your own, but it's just an opinion.
That is a very interesting point, I now see where you're coming from. I think that is a great point, it has little to do with the fact that it is a phallic symbol. It's the fact that a phallic symbol isn't what it is meant to represent. But as far as aesthetics go, some people don't like it and that's fine, but that is what chicago architecture is about, variety and breaking the mold that NYC created for the skyscraper.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:27 PM
 
Location: chicago
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That's funny I always heard we were in the shadow of NYC, that's why Chicago is called the "Second City" to NYC. CHI has nothing in common with L.A.. Here in civilization east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon Line, L.A. never crosses anyones mind. We're an urban, cosmopolitan, sophisticated people. L.A. IS A GROUP OF FRUITS AND NUTS AND MISFITS!

And for the record, everyone in America outside of NYC and CHI is living in our shadow. You know it, and I know it!

lol.L.A group o ruits and nuts.!!!hilarious.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Phoenix AZ
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That's funny I always heard we were in the shadow of NYC, that's why Chicago is called the "Second City" to NYC. CHI has nothing in common with L.A.. Here in civilization east of the Mississippi and north of the Mason-Dixon Line, L.A. never crosses anyones mind. We're an urban, cosmopolitan, sophisticated people. L.A. IS A GROUP OF FRUITS AND NUTS AND MISFITS!

And for the record, everyone in America outside of NYC and CHI is living in our shadow. You know it, and I know it!
May i ask what shadow LA put on Chicago, are downtown is way bigger i think it is impossible to overshadow something that is bigger than U
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:30 AM
 
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Freedom.
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Old 08-29-2008, 04:19 PM
 
Location: new york
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i like the spire just a little bit better because its a little different but i like freem=dom tower too
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:19 PM
 
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Freedom Tower. I much prefer traditional skyscraper designs to these hideous and ridiculous designs. I think the Spire will tarnish Chicago's skyline..
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Old 09-01-2008, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro (Scottsdale), AZ
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Freedom Tower. I much prefer traditional skyscraper designs to these hideous and ridiculous designs. I think the Spire will tarnish Chicago's skyline..
I totally agree! But then again, I have never, EVER, been one of those people that found Chicago's skyline to have dominance over NYC's. Never in a million years!! IMO, to think otherwise is totally ignorant, and to just go with the general, and "totally unbaised" C-D crowd. Sure, we can talk about how "even" and "balanced" Chicago's skyline is all the live long day folks, but when it comes down to it, at one point in time, NYC's was far less "crowded" and "balanced". Why isn't it today? Well for one thing, the main cluster of NYC's skyscapers are located in a much smaller area than Chicago's, and, I don't know, people want to build in NYC, so with little space, but with a high demand, it becomes very hard to accomodate an "even" skyline. Not to mention, Manhatten is one of the most sought after places to live in the nation. I'm sorry, but when I see new condo developments in Phoenix, going for the exact same price that I see going in Chicago's prime" real estate, it makes me wonder, A LOT!

Driving into NYC, and seeing that huge skyline, it brings to mind so many different thoughts, and, at least for me, literally made a shiver run down my back the first time. To think that this ONE city is the definition for the greatest city in the world, is just a slighty mind boggling experience. Speak nothing of the atomic energy of the steets below! Driving into Chicago, yeah it is big and spead out. So is Houston's! What is your point? And for all the great "architecture" that Chicago boasts so much on this forum, I'm sorry, but the UGLY, and I do mean, UGLY, Sear's Tower, and Hancock building, can't hold a candle to the romance, and intrigue of NYC's old towering scturctures. Not on it's best day.

Now, what do I think of the Spire? Well, in one word, HIDEOUS! It doesn't fit, it doesn't make sense, and just looks incredibly out of place. I am really sad that when it is completed, it will be the tallest structure in America. WOW! Way to go! Now, is the Freedom Tower, in my opinion that great! Well......it certainly has my vote long before the Spire. Besides, the Freedom means something deep and personal, not only to the people of NYC, but to everyone of us that turned on our TVs that fateful Tuesday morning, and witnessed evil, and a war cry against Freedom. Looking at the pics of the FT, yes IMHO, it is abstract. But you know what, it also reminds me that although those sadistic killers tried to break us, and create an era of fear within our country, they couldn't!! By building th FT, we are telling the present day world, and maybe more importantly, the future generations of our country, that on that day, we wouldn't be taken, and we wouldn't be mocked. Sure we took a beating, and the pain lingers in us. But we are American's, and we will not be held down under a grip of terror and fear. We will stand against oppression, and anarchy, and more importantly, we will have Freedom. That is what that area represents, and is a memorial to all the brave men and women who died that day, trying to do the exact opposite of what the TV as witnessing to us.

When I look at the cork screw looking over frozen Lake Michigan, I don't get anything like that. In fact, it makes me think how arrogant Chicago is for wanting to keep the grand title of the city that invented the skyscaper. Yeah, reaaaaaal classy!
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:58 AM
 
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Personally, I like the Spire, I just think it is in the wrong spot. They should have put it further north on the lake.
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:30 PM
 
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Chicago Spire is now "on hold" and will most likely be canceled.

Looks like the Freedom Tower (I hate that stupid name, btw) will be the tallest tower in the United States.

Tallest buildings in the United States will be, as follows..

1. Freedom Tower - New York City
2. Sears Tower - Chicago
3. 200 Greenwich Street (World Trade Center Complex) - New York City
4. 175 Greenwich Street (World Trade Center Complex) - New York City
5. Empire State Building - New York City
6. Bank of America Tower - New York City
7. Aon Center - Chicago
8. Hancock Center - Chicago
9. Chrysler Building - New York City
10. New York Times Building - New York City.

Last edited by Americanboy; 11-25-2008 at 09:51 PM..
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Old 11-25-2008, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i love ny b/c its my home. but i thing both towers kick ass.

its like chicago had thwe towers.....but were are the *******s & scummy models?
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