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View Poll Results: What city will continue to attract more and more people?
New York 23 23.23%
Houston 27 27.27%
Atlanta 10 10.10%
Las Vegas 5 5.05%
Mesa, AZ 1 1.01%
Nashville, TN 3 3.03%
Santa Fe, NM 0 0%
Phoenix, AZ 7 7.07%
Glendale, CA 1 1.01%
Henderson, NV 0 0%
Austin, TX 11 11.11%
San Antonio, TX 3 3.03%
Chandler, AZ 1 1.01%
Charlotte, NC 5 5.05%
San Jose, CA 2 2.02%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-01-2008, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NYC
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How is the low cost of energy superfluous when it was what lead to building sprawling freeways surrounding cities like Los Angeles, Dallas, Houston, and Atlanta? Cities such as these epitomized the automobile age in being able to drive around endlessly when the supply of oil seemed endless. Those days are long gone, however -- and my point refers to what can potentially happen in the aftermath.

You're correct that the low cost-of-living and friendly business atmosphere resulting in job growth is what attracted transplants. However, with business incentives being offered in cities all over the country and cost-of-living -- such as transportation, utilities, food prices -- all being significantly affected by oil, then the topic low energy costs with regard to the Sun Belt is certainly not "superfluous."
When one has to spend most of your income on rent... Housing is a major factor of relocation and when your job can't afford your housing--your housing can't afford your job. In my opinion, it's a much more feasible option to move to some place car-less then homeless. In any case, if cheap energy is a factor, the Sun Belt would be receiving similar utilities, food prices and transportation at a lower rate.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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When one has to spend most of your income on rent... Housing is a major factor of relocation and when your job can't afford your housing--your housing can't afford your job. In my opinion, it's a much more feasible option to move to some place car-less then homeless. In any case, if cheap energy is a factor, the Sun Belt would be receiving similar utilities, food prices and transportation at a lower rate.
Right -- and I'm going as far as to say that the advantage of "cheap energy" the Sun Belt once had has virtually vanished. So, I don't think we're in disagreement here, it's just maybe how I phrased it came off differently.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NYC
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Right -- and going as far as to say that the advantage of "cheap energy" the Sun Belt once had has virtually vanished. So, I don't think we're in disagreement here, it's just maybe how I phrased it came off differently.
You are right, the once wide margin has decreased.
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Chicago, IL
Yes.

You really limited the city choices, leaving out some key cities with major growth. Why list Chandler, Mesa and Pheonix?
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:57 PM
 
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Well, its not on the poll, but I think Los Angeles is attracting more people as the population is growing.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Center City Philadelphia
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New York. Always.
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:18 AM
 
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Well, its not on the poll, but I think Los Angeles is attracting more people as the population is growing.
It's more Riverside than LA these days.
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Galewood
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I can't say that I agree with you there. Unless Chicago can gets its act together and stop doing asinine things like having the highest sales tax in the nation (yes, starting today, we do ), then I don't see that to be the case anytime before we clean political house (they all need to go at this point, I gave Daley a fair shot for years, and yes, even liked him in the beginning, but he needs to go too).

I predict that medium sized cities with good public transportation systems (given the cost of gas) and low crime will be the fastest growing cities of the future.
I didn't mean just Chicago city proper, but the metro area. Naperville, Aurora, Bolingbrook, Orland Park, etc. are growing pretty fast. For those who don't like Chicago's city tax they don't have to move across country, they can move to the suburbs in counties like Dupage and Will where taxes are cheaper.
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Old 07-02-2008, 04:46 AM
 
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I predict that medium sized cities with good public transportation systems (given the cost of gas) and low crime will be the fastest growing cities of the future.
I agree with this...my pick is for Denver, although it isn't on this list.
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Old 07-02-2008, 08:28 AM
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I didn't mean just Chicago city proper, but the metro area. Naperville, Aurora, Bolingbrook, Orland Park, etc. are growing pretty fast. For those who don't like Chicago's city tax they don't have to move across country, they can move to the suburbs in counties like Dupage and Will where taxes are cheaper.
Those areas are growing due to ex-urban sprawl, which in an era of cheap gas and energy was possible. I'm not sure that is the case now. It is becoming more and more difficult for people to commute long distances to work, shopping, school, etc. than it has in the past. It is also becoming more and more difficult for people to heat and cool some of the larger houses that are so common in such ex-urban areas. Some of the areas you are referring to are 35-40 miles from downtown Chicago, in smaller cities, the 'suburbs' are much less far away, and I don't see families moving into urban areas unless issues of the public school system (lets face it Chicago's schools are dismal at best unless you are one of the lucky ones who gets into a good magnet school), crime, and housing costs are addressed.
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