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Old 07-08-2008, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Everywhere
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Default Low income equals high crime??!

Why does it seem that many well defined low-income areas tend to have higher crime rates, specifically violent crimes?

If you agree, what are some ideas for bringing about change?
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Most poor are not criminals, but most criminals are poor.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Location Location
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White Collar Crime
Low income= high income seems so overdone on this site....Lets focus on white collar crimes. I mean it happens, it just overlooked. This is how some rich become rich.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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The problem lies in the fact that people who may be against the wall with bills, feel that if they can gain the money for the things they need dishonestly, that they just might make it, after all, they have no other option. Then if they don't get caught the first time, they do it again and again, first to pay the bills, but then to get things they don't need, because they usually are uneducated and only see the $$$ side of the story, and so then they make a career out of it and suddenly they know the cop who patrols their district on a first name basis, they're in and out of jail because the system makes jail all too appealing and this guy never thought it through to begin with. So as this guy is theiving he has a son, and a daughter and another son, because he feels like it, not fully comprehending that kids cost extra money, and completely disreguarding their need for attention. Pretty soon the kids are growing up. And guess what kind of careers look good to them? Same one as Daddy, especially since gang culture is so prevelant. And so it continues for another generation. The unending cycle of criminality.

Until one day the neighborhood gets a major department store, and a few residents making livable income move into the neighborhood. Then a new resteraunt with great food, and top notch service. both places pay above minimum wage starting salary, and suddenly everyone in the neighborhood sees a new way to pay the bills. Both places have all the employees they need, and more buisness moves in, until the neighborhood has a thriving shopping district, with enough jobs for most of the residents, and luckily most of the residents were smart enough to abandon their criminal ways and get better jobs. And guess what, crime is down by over 50%. The reasoning? It's not really a poor neighborhood anymore. But likelihood is that both businesses would instantly close, as people wouldn't see the potential for a career, but another place to rob, or swipe high end electronics. and thus, the cycle of criminality goes on.
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Old 07-08-2008, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Everywhere
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I understand many peoples complaint with discussing this topic ad nauseum...I really wanted to focus more on people's idea for change. I think in a forum like this where people can brainstorm and reflect and hybrid each other's answers to form a great new creative idea is a fantastic tool. Unfortunately I see often that many would much rather choose to complain than to use this.
So again, I just want to light a spark that might lead to a fantastic fire!
Ideas for change!
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Old 07-08-2008, 07:45 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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"Poor" doesn't necessarily equal high crime. Many people without much money don't generally resort to crime. I think it's a bigger problem in urban areas than rural areas also. One size doesn't fit all. And some people who seem "poor" and who aren't resorting to crime may not particularly care for the meddling of government and other groups.
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:10 AM
 
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So what about some small Midwest town where the large factory in town suddenly closes up??? Is crime less of a problem? Or do we not hear about it because it isn't some big city like New York, Chicago or Indianapolis or ???
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:45 PM
 
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Most poor are not criminals, but most criminals are poor.
Well said.
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:08 PM
 
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Why does it seem that many well defined low-income areas tend to have higher crime rates, specifically violent crimes?

If you agree, what are some ideas for bringing about change?
sukwoo hit it on the head. being poor is frustrating, and frustration leads to confrontation...poverty is a vicious cycle, esp. when the gov't keeps it rolling faster and faster.
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Old 07-08-2008, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Everywhere
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"Poor" doesn't necessarily equal high crime. Many people without much money don't generally resort to crime. I think it's a bigger problem in urban areas than rural areas also. One size doesn't fit all. And some people who seem "poor" and who aren't resorting to crime may not particularly care for the meddling of government and other groups.

And why do you think it's more of a problem in urban areas versus rural? They both are struggling. What seems to set them apart?
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