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Old 01-26-2009, 08:00 PM
 
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It is my impression that the "edge city" is not necessarily another municipal entity but rather the spreading of services and businesses to the outer suburb. This then creates a "city" unto itself where one doesn't have to commute into town for the shopping or schools. (The beginning of sprawl?) It was characterized I think by malls and lots of driving with no center area. Am I wrong??
You are correct, but oftentimes these "edge cities" overspread established small towns. Here in the Twin Cities, towns like Otsego, St Michael, Rosemont, Lakeville and Forest Lake were self-contained small towns settled in the late 1800s or early 1900s, but today they are surrounded by sprawl.
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Old 01-26-2009, 08:42 PM
 
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You are correct, but oftentimes these "edge cities" overspread established small towns. Here in the Twin Cities, towns like Otsego, St Michael, Rosemont, Lakeville and Forest Lake were self-contained small towns settled in the late 1800s or early 1900s, but today they are surrounded by sprawl.
Very true, but "Edge City" has a pretty specific definition. "A full-blown edge city is marked by: 5 Million feet of office space, 600,000 feet of retail space, a population that increases on workdays and an area that has urbanized in the last 30 years" The book is old, so the data has changed; but in Minneapolis the only defined edge cities are Bloomington/Edina and Minnetonka. Otsego and Rosemount epitomize suburbia, but they don't compete with the core cities because they are so intensively residential. Bloomington, Roseville, Golden Valley and Plymouth are centers with tens of thousands of jobs.
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Old 01-27-2009, 10:53 AM
 
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Very true, but "Edge City" has a pretty specific definition. "A full-blown edge city is marked by: 5 Million feet of office space, 600,000 feet of retail space, a population that increases on workdays and an area that has urbanized in the last 30 years" The book is old, so the data has changed; but in Minneapolis the only defined edge cities are Bloomington/Edina and Minnetonka. Otsego and Rosemount epitomize suburbia, but they don't compete with the core cities because they are so intensively residential. Bloomington, Roseville, Golden Valley and Plymouth are centers with tens of thousands of jobs.
Thanks for the clarification. Didin't realize that there was a definition for edge city. I thought it was just a concept for areas at the "edge" of an urban area that is transitioning from rural to suburban.
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Old 01-27-2009, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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^Think places like Tysons Corner, VA outside of DC; Perimeter Center outside of Atlanta; the Denver Tech Center area; Uptown/Galleria area of Houston, etc. Those are the true edge cities.

They usually started with a regional mall, and then an office space explosion in later years. Today they actually function much like a "real" downtown, only way more car oriented.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:42 PM
 
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Old post but I will try anyway. I live in and enjoy living in an inner ring suburb- Robbinsdale, MN. That said it is getting a bit irksome to drive south on Highway 100 and cross an invisible line about three miles south to a bright shining world where new buildings and new businesses are flourishing while the north side seems to add more vacant buildings and failed businesses every day.

I am trying to amass information on how to save an inner ring suburb. Any website, book, articles, you could recommend? An example of an inner ring suburb where community action prompted change for the better? Please don't say move. Even if I wanted to move, Zillow characterizes the housing market here as "very cold". Need I say more?

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Old 06-14-2014, 01:12 PM
 
Location: The City
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The Urbanophile Blog Archive The New Look of the American Suburb

http://www.bernadettehanlon.com/imag...Inner_subs.pdf

http://nextstl.com/2011/11/parkview-...iversity-city/

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/res...rstsuburbs.pdf

http://www.temple.edu/tempress/chapt...0/2001_ch1.pdf
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: South Park, San Diego
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Here in San Diego the first ring, street car suburbs are amongst the most desired and expensive areas to live in the city- chock full of vintage homes, mature landscaping, vibrant village shopping, pubs and dining areas and wild finger canyons all within a couple of miles of downtown and the bay. They are also very safe.

When we bought here 17 years ago the neighborhood was still a little rough around the edges and seemed like it could turn either way; for the better or worse. As it turned out the neighborhood totally transformed and gentrified into arguably the most desired place in the urban core. Houses for sale here are somewhat rare and most snapped up within days if not hours of going on the market for prices upwards of $700/ft.

A good part of its success was derived from a few business group members coming up with what's termed a "Walkabout" where local businesses got together and promoted the neighborhood with an evening open house where one can explore/discover the vintage charm and go into local shops and restaurants hosting food and beverages. That was 10 years ago, today the neighborhood is officially discovered and the quarterly Walkabouts teem with 1000s of people enjoying the neighborhood from all over the county, and with that brings folks wanting to move here. There is also an "Old House Fair" every year with vendors and tours. There is also a "no chain stores" rule, and most businesses here heavily promote and sell locally crafted goods which helps keep money local.

South Park Walkabouts - Walkabouts

South Park Wild West Walkabout - YouTube

The Old House Fair - YouTube

Neighborhoods like this need to exploit and foment their uniqueness and zealously protect historic resources, that is what keeps them interesting and valuable.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:16 AM
 
Location: the future
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Prince George's County, Md borders NE/SE DC which causes alot of spillover crime. Inside of the beltway of PG is where alot of the action is. The area between SE/NE DC and inner beltway PG is the largest most troublesome area in the region. In 2008 104 of PG's 134 murders occurred inside of the beltway.
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