Legal ways to get back at state and federal goverment? (how much, buying)

[the_pines]

People could abandon Washington DC as payback for congress wasting trillions of dollars everywhere and anywhere besides here. They could have been fixing our own cities. No one should move to DC unless they have to. Everyone should abandon it so congress can go to work everyday in a ghost town, or a hood. Because thats the way a lot of our cities are elsewhere. It would also send a strong message to congress and the world, even if you plot against your own people, they still have ways of hitting back. If nothing else they wouldn't have any vibrance and they would feel the pain of dead and dying decay for their negligence and unaccountability.

For people that don't have any respect for California politics and their way of forcing themselves on the nation as a leader, piracy directly affects California's economy. Especially Beverly Hills and the movie industry. I'm not saying to go pirate something. What im saying is if you aren't against it that could have merit too. One could say that is payback for creating a very divisive, unmanageable state and pawning itself off to the world first and foremost before staying in line with your people. Was it piracy when someone turned on the radio, called in to the station to hear a certain song and had their cassette tape ready to record? One could make as good a point about sharing and caring being beneficial for people, than California's political organizations could make about not being hypocritical imperial tyrants.

Yea, im bored and frustrated with the way things are.

[the_pines]

Still pondering...People have to have an active defense. Where is the oversight and accountability?

What about dropping stocks from any companies that politicians are invested in?

What about moving assets in to more fundamental areas of infrastructure and backbone anchors while limiting congress' ability to rake as much as they would from their traditional methods? Maybe even shifting stocks around continually to purposely avoid anchoring their stocks, while investing in their competitors.

How about cutting deeply in to politicians incomes, both state and federal, by lowering their wages all across the table? Or creating a much lower standardized wage for state and federal seats? Also eliminating their benefits packages from medical, dental, to retirement to and allocating the saved money for schools or charity. Ive noticed an age old trick politicians do. The mafia loved to use charities as a front. Congressmen and politicians have perfected this tactic. So im sure they wouldn't mind a lot of their money going to charities to create a better global world anyway right? So long as they aren't the ones choosing where it goes after their newly garnered wages are collected. That is exactly what they do to our country, except their charities are their business partners in their rolodex.

If nothing else, a stalemate could be a win. Since it is obvious what they have been doing for the last fifty years. They have perfected propaganda and maintained secrecy by controlling media. The picture might not be as obvious if you are looking at a specific point. But if you zoom out on the time line it gets a lot clearer.

[the_pines]

Bombarding congress with red tape legislation that challenges their traditional job settings seems like it could annoy them just as bad as they annoy other people for constantly bringing up local, state, and federal laws that create diversions. Instead of going for impeachment trials and that sort, what about some more scrupulous laws that constantly nip at their ability to create new laws designed and instituted for the mere purpose of distraction and control. Remember, its not the rule of the jungle /wink. Governments are just as accountable, even more so since they wield positions of power and influence.

[yachtcare]

Originally Posted by the_pines

If nothing else, a stalemate could be a win. Since it is obvious what they have been doing for the last fifty years. They have perfected propaganda and maintained secrecy by controlling media. The picture might not be as obvious if you are looking at a specific point. But if you zoom out on the time line it gets a lot clearer.

Agreed, BUT, this whole notion is the same as organizing a gasoline boycott. You may get everyone to not buy gas for one day, one week, one month. But it's something that is essential. You'll just end up buying more, sooner or later. We NEED government, to keep things running smoothly, they could run much more smoothly than they do now, if common sense were applied. But government is all the same, anymore. Dems or Repubs, just different sides of the same coin, working the system that THEY put in place
There's ony TWO ways to affect "REAL" change in our government. One is to VOTE EVERY SINGLE INCUMBENT OUT of office. Not likely to happen. And not even a very good idea at that. And the other is to change the "system" and make it absolutly UNLAWFUL, punishable by prison time, and ENFORCED, to have any type of "lobbieist", period. Lobbieists are nothing more than legalized bribe facilitators. Eliminate them, and you eliminate 99.9% of the reason most of the politicians run for office in the first place...PAYOLA. The change to people running for office, that had a real, and true desire to serve their constituents would come naturally. Of course, it will never happen, for the same reason they will keep getting pay raises. Theyre the ones that get to vote on it, and we have nothing to say, until we vote them all out, and hope the new bunch doesnt just carry on with business as usual, which they would as soon as they found out how much $$$PAYOLA$$$ there is to be made, and on and on and blah, blah, blah,
My advice..Be Happy, Dont Worry, 'cause nothings ever gonna change, not even worth discussing....

[Raggy dee Ann]

Move out to Idaho. Build your own fort, stop paying taxes and pile up enough amo for when they come to get ya.

[the_pines]

Originally Posted by Raggy dee Ann

Move out to Idaho. Build your own fort, stop paying taxes and pile up enough amo for when they come to get ya.

I never said anything about not paying taxes. I just said something about where those taxes go to. I'm not enthusiastic about guns or violence either. I was talking about peoples will being understood and respected in DC. They are notorious for using loopholes when its suits them and then telling the public remedial lie after lie with no accountability. The thing is people fall back and give up ground and think their state government is a rock. Nope. States governments are easily subdued. Anyways anarchy isn't an answer. I'm not in to that. I'd rather stand my ground and take my lumps and bruises and say what I have to say. If I were running because something was going to happen, or things were getting bad enough, I wouldn't go to Idaho either. I would only go there because of the scenery, and if the economy was good.