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I am talking about LIGHT RAIL AROUND THE CITY AND THE SUBURBS. Seattle's has been there for years, decades even. Not just some area around the Space Needle.
NO it hasn't, did you even click on the link? Seattle's light rail system HAS NOT EVEN OPENED YET! I don't know what you're talking about b/c it's NOT light rail. Seattle DOES NOT have any operational light rail currently. Please, actually click on the link I provided or just google it yourself.
Please provide me with a link showing Seattles "decades" old light rail system?????
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I brought up Phoenix because it is a sprawl mania of a city.
But what does that have to do with how it should not be included in this list?? You didn't bring up the sprawl of Phx originally until you responded to my comment. This is your original comment btw:
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If I could, I would add some other cities to the poll, but Milwaukee definatly deserves a spot on the list. As well as Philly and Louisville. But I think the list is great. Glad no Phoenix's or Tucsons, that for sure.
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And first off, you started talking bad about the cities and how we in the north hold animosity towards the SW, when that is not the case at all. Why should I look in the mirror, I am sorry but that made no sense. I am not bashing Phoenix, it was the tone you used towards me about animosity. LOL yes, this is the internet and you can't tell emotions, but it was the way you posted your comment.
You should take a look in the mirror b/c you claim I was the one that started talking bad about northern cities when it was YOU that started talking bad about Phx and Tuscon right off the bat. Does it make sense now to you?
LOL true, Columbus holds more in common with Phoenix, it likes to sprawl. But Columbus is doing a lot downtown, adding character which Phoenix's downtown lacks. I am sorry, that is just my opinion, but you can put that on here.
Its good to see Phoenix is trying to bring people downtown, that is good. But the sprawl there is terrible. And Cleveland currently has one of the fastest growing downtown populations in the nation, if Phoenix can do what Cleveland is doing, like building more highrise condos, your downtown population will explode, and I know that is in the works in Phoenix too.
The Colorado river is very low. I remember seeing the white cliffs where the water once use to be, 75 feet drop in the last few decades, that is not good! That is why the water here in the Great Lakes, the largest source for freshwater in the world, is catching the eye of many in the SW.
Well, Phoenix had a lot of projects on the books (highrise condos, hotels, etc) that were put on hold due to the current state of the economy, but hopefully that will pick up again soon. There are some current projects underway downtown. For your sake and mine, let's find a way to use that ocean water to our advantage.
BTW, I'll be visiting Cleveland on the 12th of next month.
[quote=sav858;5007560]that's subjective, considering how much people hate on those cities on here I think for those that like those cities they are underrated in that respect. There is a heavy eastern/midwest bias on this site, posters from those areas seem to think all the rustbelt cities are underrated and all the sunbelt cities are overrated. Maybe all the people moving from their areas to those sunbelt cities creates a little animosity......[/quote]
Yes, that is what I am talking about. I made NO comment to you. You talked about the animosity towards all the people in the north to your cities. That is what prompted me to comment back to YOUR comment.
BTW, Seattle's new light rail project, the one you posted.... has been under construction since 2000. Thats almost a whole decade of new lines. If you will also read, its almost done. Plus, Phoenix's light rail, which still has yet to get extensive at all, is only in Tempe if my memory serves me right.
that's subjective, considering how much people hate on those cities on here I think for those that like those cities they are underrated in that respect. There is a heavy eastern/midwest bias on this site, posters from those areas seem to think all the rustbelt cities are underrated and all the sunbelt cities are overrated. Maybe all the people moving from their areas to those sunbelt cities creates a little animosity......[/quote]
Yes, that is what I am talking about. I made NO comment to you. You talked about the animosity towards all the people in the north to your cities. That is what prompted me to comment back to YOUR comment.
And I made NO comment to you originally, please go back through this thread and see who I originally quoted b/c it was NOT YOU. You responded to my comment first, not the other way around. My first post in this thread was a response to "dxiweodwo" and NOT YOU. Go back and REREAD this thread very carefully please.
And NO I said MAYBE and the "all" is referring to the people moving and NOT to the all the residents of northern rustbelt cities. It was just an opinion or thought on why so many people in rustbelt cities like to bash on sunbelt cities.
BTW, Seattle's new light rail project, the one you posted.... has been under construction since 2000. Thats almost a whole decade of new lines. If you will also read, its almost done. Plus, Phoenix's light rail, which still has yet to get extensive at all, is only in Tempe if my memory serves me right.
What are you talking about? It only has ONE line that hasn't even opened yet. Yes it's almost done but not even in service. You claimed they have had light rail for decades; So where is the information for that? At least you can admit you were wrong on that.
Where is this "decade" of whole new lines in Seattle??? It hasn't even opened a single line yet, which is 14 miles btw versus 20 miles for Phx's first light rail line. And Phx's light rail opens this December, a month before Seattle's.
Memory is not serving you right at all here. Seattle doesn't have a light rail system in operation yet and never had one. It's ONE LINE just like PHX and Phx's light rail does go through a lot more than just Tempe, including DOWNTOWN Phx.
Please go google Seattle's and Phoenix's light rail b/c you are way off on this and wrong.
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