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Old 01-03-2013, 08:55 PM
 
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Coming from a southerner's perspective, Id ont' consider Maryland, DC, or Delaware southern.
And everyone I've ever met from those states/district doesn't consider themselves southern, either.
HUGE RED FLAG!!!!!!!

That right there proves the theory that a lot of people from certain areas of the deep south Really HATE the state of Maryland for reasons of False Pride, Arrogance, and Bitterness..........
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:03 PM
 
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And after all of that *** *** *** it still does not take away from the FACT the State of Maryland is a Southern State despite the Hatred that comes from certain people from the Deep South and again if Maryland is not a Southern State then Virginia, Florida, Texas, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, and Missouri are not Southern States either......


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That is a good point. I have always thought that one of the best definitions of a region is that of self-identification with the region. And in this case, a majority of people from Maryland and Delaware do not consider themselves to live in the South nor think of themselves as Southerner.

I realize that, to a large extent, "The South" and being "Southern" is a state of mind. And yeah, I don't doubt there are people from Maryland and Delaware that are "more Southern" (by that criteria) than some type from Mississippi and Alabama, who hate their own Southern heritage. And I have met them (and I want to say for the record, there is nothing more deserving of contempt than someone who disdains their own roots and birthrights...)

Whatever, here is the study itself:

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WHERE IS THE SOUTH?

The South has been defined by a great many characteristics, but one of the most interesting definitions is where people believe that they are in the South. A related definition is where the residents consider themselves to be southerners, although this is obviously affected by the presence of non-southern migrants.

Until recently we did not have the data to answer the question of where either of those conditions is met. Since 1992, however, 14 twice-yearly Southern Focus Polls conducted by the Institute for Research in Social Science at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill have asked respondents from the 11 former Confederate states, Kentucky, and Oklahoma "Just for the record, would you say that your community is in the South, or not?" Starting with the third of the series, the same question was asked of smaller samples of respondents from West Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, the District of Columbia, and Missouri (all except Missouri included in the Bureau of the Census's "South"). Respondents from the 13 southern states were also asked "Do you consider yourself a Southerner, or not?," while starting with the second survey those from other states were asked "Do you consider yourself or anyone in your family a Southerner?," and if so, whether they considered themselves to be Southerners.

It is clear from these data that if the point is to isolate southerners for study or to compare them to other Americans the definition of the South employed by the Southern Focus Poll (and, incidentally, by the Gallup Organization) makes sense, while the Bureau of the Census definiton does not. We already knew that, of course, but it's good to be able to document it.

--John Shelton Reed

Percent who say their community is in the South (percentage base in parentheses)

Alabama 98 (717) South Carolina 98 (553) Louisiana 97 (606) Mississippi 97 (431) Georgia 97 (1017) Tennessee 97 (838) North Carolina 93 (1292) Arkansas 92 (400) Florida 90 (1792) Texas 84 (2050) Virginia 82 (1014) Kentucky 79 (582) Oklahoma 69 (411)

West Virginia 45 (82) Maryland 40 (173) Missouri 23 (177) Delaware 14 (21) D.C. 7 (15)

Percent who say they are Southerners (percentage base in parentheses)

Mississippi 90 (432) Louisiana 89 (606) Alabama 88 (716) Tennessee 84 (838) South Carolina 82 (553) Arkansas 81 (399) Georgia 81 (1017) North Carolina 80 (1290) Texas 68 (2053) Kentucky 68 (584) Virginia 60 (1012) Oklahoma 53 (410) Florida 51 (1791)

West Virginia 25 (84) Maryland 19 (192) Missouri 15 (197) New Mexico 13 (68) Delaware 12 (25) D.C. 12 (16) Utah 11 (70) Indiana 10 (208) Illinois 9 (362) Ohio 8 (396) Arizona 7 (117) Michigan 6 (336)

All others less than 6 percent.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:04 PM
 
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What can Dover, Delaware, and El Paso, Texas, possibly have in common?
Mexicans????
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:06 PM
 
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How do you figure? On the Moco/Pg side they condsider themselves one with DC and NOVA culturally/aesthetically. Seaford DE...better yet DELMARVA (the original DMV) speaks for itself. Baltimore shares alot of words with DC and some accented words with Philly. The cultural highway from Philly to DE to MD/VA is VERY much related.
Its already proven that he/she has NEVER step foot into the state of MAryland; it is nothing but of a bunch of stereotypical gibberish BS..........
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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What can Augusta, Maine and Washington, DC possibly have in common?
Nothing; DC is a Southern City and Augusta, Maine is a very cold northern state close to Canada.......
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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Wow...first off, take your medication.
Please take your own advise.........

Second off, most of Maryland and Delaware have more of a cultural, demographic, political, and linguistic affiliation to New Jersey and Pennsylvania than to Virginia FROM A MODERN STANDPOINT. I agree that if you factor in things like pre-Civil history, this becomes a much grayer area. But I would never, EVER associate most of Maryland and Delaware with the south from a modern standpoint. Baltimore and D.C. have a lot more in common with Philly than with Richmond. And also, Delaware and Maryland are such small states, and NOVA more like the Northeast than the south, that to say Richmond is a better comparison is just truly ridiculous. I will add that I have relatives who live in Washington D.C. who are very familiar with Maryland and Delaware. Both agree that the rest of Virginia outside of NOVA is not like the majority of MD and DE. MD and DE are Northeastern for all intents and purposes from a modern standpoint.[/quote]

And again your opinion does not take away from the FACT THAT MARYLAND IS A SOUTHERN STATE........

Just by judging all of your illogical comments it is evidential that you and some of the other strange people from the deep south do not have any respect for the state of Maryland and is embarrassed to be associated with Marylanders........
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:15 PM
 
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And after all of that *** *** *** it still does not take away from the FACT the State of Maryland is a Southern State despite the Hatred that comes from certain people from the Deep South and again if Maryland is not a Southern State then Virginia, Florida, Texas, Kentucky, West Virginia, Oklahoma, and Missouri are not Southern States either......
No offense but you seem to bash the South a lot.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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And again your opinion does not take away from the FACT THAT MARYLAND IS A SOUTHERN STATE........

Just by judging all of your illogical comments it is evidential that you and some of the other strange people from the deep south do not have any respect for the state of Maryland and is embarrassed to be associated with Marylanders.....
Do you think Maryland/Delaware has more in common with states like South Carolina and Tennessee than it does Pennsylvania and New Jersey?
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:28 PM
 
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No offense but you seem to bash the South a lot.
Well I am very offended with some of the Southern Finest express soo much disrespect/hate towards the state of Maryland to the point of being embarrassed to be associated with Maryland being part of the Southern States........

They say people from the south are supposed to sophisticated, hospitable, and classy but after reading some of the postings on here and dealings with some of the people from the deep south that have discriminating views I am not confident to believe that the south being more civilized than people from the Northeast.
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Old 01-03-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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Do you think Maryland/Delaware has more in common with states like South Carolina and Tennessee than it does Pennsylvania and New Jersey?
You have not ever been to the state of Maryland/Delaware if you have to ask such a question..........

The only places in Maryland/Delaware that looks anything like Pennsylvania/New Jersey would be Baltimore, Wilmington, and Montgomery County other than that Maryland/Delaware has more in common with Georgia, North Carolina, Virginia, and Florida.....

I have not been to Tennessee and there are parts of Baltimore County that looks like parts of Columbia, SC and Maryland Eastern Shore in common with Eastern Souther Carolina between Florence and Myrtle Beach.......
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