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new york, while not the greatest city in the world, is the greatest city in america. However, it can't compare to los angeles and shouldn't try if it wanted to. Too many variables that are completely different. You may want to try and compare the two in size or economic output, but that would be the end of it right there. Also, not a good move to list or consider wikipedia to be an accurate source. Architecture is one thing, but to list the cultural amenities associated with european origin is not effective. Just shows the lack of homegrown diversity, and new york is a slave to european culture. Los angeles, not. Still, as impressive as the list looks, why did new york fail this country again and why does l. A. Remain more influential around the world? Why do we keep bailing this hole out? Let 'em die on the vine
[b][color=darkslateblue]new york, while not the greatest city in the world, is the greatest city in America. However, it can't compare to Los Angeles and shouldn't try if it wanted to.
So if New York is the greatest city in America, but can't compare to LA... Am I missing something here? When did LA secede from the US. This comment makes ZERO sense you know.
Depends on how you want this discussion to turn out. Los Angeles can't be replicated, whereas new york can. Of course, not in its entirety, but L. A. holds more attention around the world simply because its media and storytelling culture can't be approached. This, in turn, spins off into what is known as 'lifestyle' or 'trendsetting', an offshoot of the concept of "popular culture", something new york is desperately trying to develop for iself. There was a time not long ago that new york used to turn their collective nose up at pop culture, until they realized there was more power in it and their cultural offering was contaminated by European influence. In other words, they had no native culture that could compare to Hollywood, and Broadway was so much a distant second it didn't even register in the comparison. Los Angeles is the greatest single location in this country simply because it isn't a cookie cutter city descriptive, isn't like anywhere else and yet at the same time, has the look and feel of other locations in America and around the world. It's just too big and offers too much variety to be ignored. New york is just new york, which is the greatest city, but it can only be the best new york it can possibly be- and that's not enough. Los Angeles is at once the mythic loner and the 'everycity'! Where's our money, new york?
new york, while not the greatest city in the world, is the greatest city in America. However, it can't compare to Los Angeles and shouldn't try if it wanted to. Too many variables that are completely different. You may want to try and compare the two in size or economic output, but that would be the end of it right there. Also, not a good move to list or consider wikipedia to be an accurate source. Architecture is one thing, but to list the cultural amenities associated with European origin is not effective. Just shows the lack of homegrown diversity, and new york is a slave to European culture. Los Angeles, not. Still, as impressive as the list looks, why did new york fail this country again and why does L. A. remain more influential around the world? Why do we keep bailing this hole out? Let 'em die on the vine
Wow, that is so funny how you think we are stuck on European culture. What you just said was complete nonsense. Lack of diversity is a pretty ignorant comment especially describing NY. NYC has way more culture than LA. LA is not even mentioned enough for it to have influence in anything else except media. People try things here in NY before anywhere else.
Actually, you have that backwards! New york is kind of 'B' list when it comes to entertainment media influence, and second rate compared to Los Angeles in the business of influencing the minds of those around the world. You should get out sometime- big world out there
Let me make this easy for you. How many Ballet companies reside in new york? All accomplish the exact same thing. All have their roots in Europe. Broadway's all you have. Not too impressive
Depends on how you want this discussion to turn out. Los Angeles can't be replicated, whereas new york can. Of course, not in its entirety, but L. A. holds more attention around the world simply because its media and storytelling culture can't be approached. This, in turn, spins off into what is known as 'lifestyle' or 'trendsetting', an offshoot of the concept of "popular culture", something new york is desperately trying to develop for iself. There was a time not long ago that new york used to turn their collective nose up at pop culture, until they realized there was more power in it and their cultural offering was contaminated by European influence. In other words, they had no native culture that could compare to Hollywood, and Broadway was so much a distant second it didn't even register in the comparison. Los Angeles is the greatest single location in this country simply because it isn't a cookie cutter city descriptive, isn't like anywhere else and yet at the same time, has the look and feel of other locations in America and around the world. It's just too big and offers too much variety to be ignored. New york is just new york, which is the greatest city, but it can only be the best new york it can possibly be- and that's not enough. Los Angeles is at once the mythic loner and the 'everycity'! Where's our money, new york?
Hold up. What european influence. Are you mad. Hollywood is an are towards film and broadway is an area towards Theatre. Those cant be compared. How stupid can you get. Popular culture(young media) , LA. Revolutionary culture, NYC. NYC is the culture capital of the US. NYC has a broad range of home grown culture. Hip-Hop culture, Modern dance, Jazz, abstract expressionism, indie rock, punk rock, beat movement, Harlem renaissance, street and high culture, modernism, comic books, theatre, tin pan alley, urban blues, Disco, Film(NY was an epicenter of filmmaking in the earliest days of the American film industry, but the better year-round weather of Hollywood eventually saw California becoming the home of American cinema.), performing arts(also festivals and parades), and the American suburbs.
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Actually, you have that backwards! New york is kind of 'B' list when it comes to entertainment media influence, and second rate compared to Los Angeles in the business of influencing the minds of those around the world. You should get out sometime- big world out there
The media of New York City are internationally influential, and include some of the most important newspapers, largest publishing houses, most prolific television studios, and biggest record companies in the world. New York is the largest hub of media production in the United States and is also the nation's largest media market. It is a major global center for the television, music, newspaper and book publishing industries.
NYC is not B list. NYC is home to ABC. CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS, CNN(NYstudios) MTV, Fox news, HBO, Comedy Central, 4 of the big six .
NYC is home to 4 of the 10 largest papers in the United States. The New York Times (International), The New York Daily News, and The New York Post, and The Wall Street Journal (international). NYC has more than 350 different magazine editorial offices and home to publishing giants such as Time Warner, Condé Nast Publications, and The Hearst Corporation. NYC has over 200 newspapers.
NYC also home to 3 of the big 4 record labels, Seven of the world's top eight global advertising agency networks, Two of the three national daily newspapers, 270 newspapers and magazines published in more than 40 languages, and One-third of all American independent films,
Depends on how you want this discussion to turn out. Los Angeles can't be replicated, whereas new york can. Of course, not in its entirety, but L. A. holds more attention around the world simply because its media and storytelling culture can't be approached. This, in turn, spins off into what is known as 'lifestyle' or 'trendsetting', an offshoot of the concept of "popular culture", something new york is desperately trying to develop for iself. There was a time not long ago that new york used to turn their collective nose up at pop culture, until they realized there was more power in it and their cultural offering was contaminated by European influence. In other words, they had no native culture that could compare to Hollywood, and Broadway was so much a distant second it didn't even register in the comparison. Los Angeles is the greatest single location in this country simply because it isn't a cookie cutter city descriptive, isn't like anywhere else and yet at the same time, has the look and feel of other locations in America and around the world. It's just too big and offers too much variety to be ignored. New york is just new york, which is the greatest city, but it can only be the best new york it can possibly be- and that's not enough. Los Angeles is at once the mythic loner and the 'everycity'! Where's our money, new york.
I would much rather live in LA than NYC. F--- New york! Why the hell does this discussion have to involve NYC in every post when the thread topic is about Los Angeles? That being said though, I disagree with the part of your statement that I highlited in bold. They aren't making any more New York cities, that's for sure. However, they ARE making more Los Angeleses-- all around the world, there are future LA's in the making. Las Vegas, arguably a spin-off of LA, is already more exciting of a city than any one particular place in LA. Spend some time in Scottsdale, AZ, and then try to tell me that there aren't any soCal influences there. Anywhere where you have massive areas of inner ring suburbs with old strip malls being redone into international/ethnic marketplaces you have a little piece of LA.
I would also argue that LA was probably a lot more distinctive of a city a generation ago, all the way up until the '80s, and has really lost a lot of its character since then. I wish I could have lived here back then and experienced how this place used to be-- before it was ruined. Hollywood and Sunset blvd's for example are just a shadow of their former selves. Hollywood is not even really a place; it's really a myth/symbol representing an industry that really is not even based in the "Hollywood" district of Los Angeles anymore.
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