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Old 09-30-2008, 12:44 PM
 
Location: From Ulster, now in England.
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Greetings to everyone on your side of the pond.
Quick question, do you think Americans of English,Scots,ulster-Scots and welsh ancestry are vastly under reported in the American census.

Cheers!

Craig.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:57 PM
 
Location: The Rock!
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I think Ulster Scots definitely are. Many many people don't even realize they have this ancestry these days. It's hampered in part at least by the fact that many Ulster Scots called themselves Irish when they came here (my ancestors did I know). They didn't begin to identify themselves as "Scots Irish" until the mass emigration of the potato famine. Many people of Ulster Scot ancestry just identify themselves as "American" these days. The distinct identity is being lost.
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Old 09-30-2008, 12:58 PM
 
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No region of Europe is underrepresented because all European descendents have a little bit of every country in them. It's a mutt phenomenon...
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:00 PM
 
Location: From Ulster, now in England.
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I think Ulster Scots definitely are. Many many people don't even realize they have this ancestry these days. It's hampered in part at least by the fact that many Ulster Scots called themselves Irish when they came here (my ancestors did I know). They didn't begin to identify themselves as "Scots Irish" until the mass emigration of the potato famine. Many people of Ulster Scot ancestry just identify themselves as "American" these days. The distinct identity is being lost.
Thats a shame..

As you can gather by my username I'm a ulster Scot, with a dash of English thrown in.

Cheers for the reply.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The Rock!
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Thats a shame..

As you can gather by my username I'm a ulster Scot, with a dash of English thrown in.

Cheers for the reply.
I'm a standard American mutt: plenty of Ulster Scot, maybe some native american or melungeon, tad bit of German, a good bit of English, and possibly a pinch of Welsh. My family's been here a LONG time. Every line I can trace was here before the revolution.
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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Well..we Scots-American are a proud bunch. Even have Highland games and clan organizations. If I ever get married, you can bet I will proudly wear my Tartan as do many men of Scottish descent in this country. Underrpersented? The census is not great for ancestry since there is so much mixing here and very few of us have only 1 or 2 bloodlines
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Old 09-30-2008, 01:54 PM
 
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I'm Swedish British.

For some reason people in the south know much less on average what nationalities they represent. The Midwest is very much Irish/German. In Iowa you can basically take your pick from those two, with a little bit of Dutch/Norwegian/Swedish mixed in in small pockets around the state.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:15 PM
 
Location: The Rock!
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I'm Swedish British.

For some reason people in the south know much less on average what nationalities they represent. The Midwest is very much Irish/German. In Iowa you can basically take your pick from those two, with a little bit of Dutch/Norwegian/Swedish mixed in in small pockets around the state.
The difference between the midwest and the south is the time period people's family have been on American soil. It's a bit harder for southerners to be precise because we're dealing with families who have been here since before emigration was well monitored. You have to go back 6, 8, sometimes maybe even 10 generations to get back to Europe. A lot of the Irish, Scandanavian, and eastern European ancestry paths typical of the midwest are only about half that old. Papers from pre-revolution days aren't in the best of order I'm afraid.

But, there are some definite generalities that can be made. If you're white and southern and your family has been in the south for more than a few generations, you're bound to have plenty of Scots Irish ancestry. You might have some German and a bit of English but the primary European ancestry in the South is Scots Irish.
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Old 09-30-2008, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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My sister has read hair and freckles, so maybe some Irish in there somewhere? Mom grew up blonde, though her hair is brown now. My cousin is blonde. The rest of us all have dark hair, though. And my last name is German. I also have a Native American nose.

I suppose I could be part Irish/German. I really don't know. I'm just a mutt, as most Americans are.

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Old 09-30-2008, 02:35 PM
 
Location: From Ulster, now in England.
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Well..we Scots-American are a proud bunch.
I bet you are.
Are you lowland Scot or highlander?
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