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Old 10-02-2008, 06:26 PM
 
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Which of these cities are good place to live without a car, Denver or Dallas? I know that both have bus and rail. Which system is more extensive and reliable? Thanks!

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Old 10-02-2008, 06:30 PM
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Denver would be doable, and you can even get to the mountains on the bus. You might feel a bit isolated though, depending on the bus schedule all the time.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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Is it doable? Yes

Is it recommended? No

Dallas/Dever is very spread out and traveling without a car would be a task that would ware you down, eventually.



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Which of these cities are good place to live without a car, Denver or Dallas? I know that both have bus and rail,
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA
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More people use Denver's PT. 7.44% of the population uses it. Dallas isn't in the top fifty for percent of population using PT so I'm not sure how much of the population uses it. I imagine it is around 5%. Neither city is great for using PT, but I have used Denver's before and it is ok but won't take you everywhere.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Only problem with Denver is when it snows-- not having a car and waiting at bus stops will not be very fun. The sidewalks and bus stops do not always get plowed after a snow storm-- sometimes the plows even dump the snow onto the sidewalk. I've seen bus riders have to wade knee deep through the muck just to get to the bus. Not a pretty sight.
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Old 10-02-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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I just moved from Dallas in August. The last 9 months there I did not have a car because I wrecked mine. Let me tell you, I do not recommend it. The mass transit in Dallas isn't very good. Plenty of Texans will tell you other wise but take it from me, someone who had to use the system, it's not. I've been to Denver but can't comment on living there without a car. As for Dallas, if I were you, I wouldn't do it.
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Old 10-03-2008, 11:50 AM
 
Location: outer boroughs, NYC
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I've never been to either, but from what I understand, Denver seems to have better public transit. That said, I'm not sure you'd want to try it in either city.

Cities where car-free living is possible - New York, Chicago, SF, DC, Boston, maybe Philly. You might be able to get by in a few other places if you live in a central location near major transit routes. That's really it.
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:06 AM
 
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Thanks folks! I have lived that way, years ago in the 1990's Here in So Cal without a car Its not easy to do. I wondered about the bus and trains services in these communities. Chicago, New York, San Francisco; DC,Boston, Philadelphia, Aren't these cities expensive?
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:11 AM
 
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^^Surprisingly, Philly is not that expensive.

My suggestion is that you live in a city with an amazing downtown so that you don't need to go out to suburbs or into the city from them. Downtown Portland, OR is pretty good for that. The city is a little expensive, but not bad.

If you want Denver or Dallas, Denver is the definite winner. Make sure to live downtown as you will be able to walk more places and not need to rely on PT so much. Also, most cities' downtowns are the PT hub so you will have more rail and bus lines to choose from, but IDK anything about that subject in Denver.
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:44 AM
 
Location: outer boroughs, NYC
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Thanks folks! I have lived that way, years ago in the 1990's Here in So Cal without a car Its not easy to do. I wondered about the bus and trains services in these communities. Chicago, New York, San Francisco; DC,Boston, Philadelphia, Aren't these cities expensive?
Philly isn't expensive at all, and Chicago's not so bad, especially compared with SoCal.

New York has the best overall transit system by far. Chicago's is probably second - though the DC metro is a bit better than the 'L', Chicago's system is more comprehensive, including buses and regional rail.

I've lived car-less in Chicago and New York and never had a problem.
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