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In the case of Philadelphia's Italian Market, far more Asian....particularly the Vietnamese and a smattering of Laotians and Cambodians.
That seems very true of the Italian-American neighborhoods south of the market (Washington is the place to go for Vietnamese food), but the market itself was largely Italian and Hispanic the last time I was there (if there were Asian stalls there, I missed them). I'm not really complaining as long as it keeps Old World traditions alive (and I can get good produce, meat, cheese and baked goods).
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Food and family emphasis? Food is central in Italian's lives for sure. We grew up not remembering much else, but what we ate and when. Hehe.
I'd also say a healthy dose of Catholicism doesn't hurt.
[quote=pgm123;25414285]That seems very true of the Italian-American neighborhoods south of the market (Washington is the place to go for Vietnamese food), but the market itself was largely Italian and Hispanic the last time I was there (if there were Asian stalls there, I missed them).
The first block off of Washington is largely Asian owned and operated now.
What I'm trying to say is that Italians are (or were, according to the latest census tabulation) is that areas in the NE that were once predominately Italian, like Philadelphia, or Hartford and Providence, has become now predominately Irish. I also reckon that Lackawanna County in NE PA was once predominately Italian, now it's Irish. I never said that Italians just dissapeared, just that they're no longer the dominant European group in those areas, and NYC is slowly losing it too.
Predominantly is a misuse here. I mean, here in Providence we have not suddenly become "predominantly Irish". Providence is about 35% caucasian, so I wouldn't say either Irish or Italians have a particular dominance on the city. Italians as still very much present here in Rhode Island and in Massachusetts just as they always have been. The frantic title of your post makes it sounds as if you are nervous tomorrow you will wake up and there will be no Italians . Look, even if they are less percentage wise, there are still more of them then there were yesterday population wise. Rhode Island has an a large amount of its citizens emigrate and perhaps many of these are Italians and less Irish. I don't know. Perhaps it could be more Italians are identifying as American, or more people who didn't before are identifying as Irish.
Italian men with black women? That's even more unrecognized to me lol.
Mostly Polish, Irish, other Italians and Jewish is what I've personally seen growing up with zillions of Italians. And, the husband has to say "Ooh, Ah, that's really good" when he's eating the mother in law's food...or he's out.
If you are talking about Amsterdam(NY for those that don't know), then I can totally see that.
Lol yup, I live 10 minutes away from Amsterdam, NY right now. Went to kindergarten at the elementary school there. Nearly everyone is either Italian or Puerto Rican, with some Polish people as well.
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Mostly Polish, Irish, other Italians and Jewish is what I've personally seen growing up with zillions of Italians. And, the husband has to say "Ooh, Ah, that's really good" when he's eating the mother in law's food...or he's out.
Hardly any Italian influence here in the south (Atlanta area for me). I'd say Italians make up about one to two percent, at maximum.
Most southerners are descendants of English, Scottish, and Scots-Irish, with some Irish, Dutch, and French. A few Germans, but not many.
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