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Old 10-11-2008, 03:07 PM
 
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East Palo Alto
South San Jose
East San Jose
Hunters Point / Bay View (South San Francisco)
Vallejo
Oakland
Richmond
Emeryville
The unincorporated section of Redwood City
Watsonville
Marin City
Ocean Side
San Pedro (iffy)
Watts
Compton
Wilmington (the port area)
...and many others...
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Old 10-11-2008, 05:10 PM
 
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Jobs are NOT moving into the Inland Empire and certainly NOT into the Central valley (which has some of the highest unemployment rates in the nation, btw).
Jobs aren't moving into the Central Valley? That's news to me.

Fresno County Unemployment Rate
2007 8.6%
2006 8.0%
2005 9.1%
2004 10.5%
2003 11.8%
2002 11.5%
2001 10.7%
2000 10.4%
1999 13.6%
1998 14.3%

That's a very big decline when you consider that the population grew from 777,500 on Jan 1, 1998 to 931,000 on Jan 1, 2008.

Fresno County's population grew by over 150,000 yet it created jobs for both the newcomers and many who were out of work 10 years ago. Sounds like jobs came to the Central Valley to me.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:02 PM
 
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East Palo Alto
South San Jose
East San Jose
Hunters Point / Bay View (South San Francisco)
Vallejo
Oakland
Richmond
Emeryville
The unincorporated section of Redwood City
Watsonville
Marin City
Ocean Side
San Pedro (iffy)
Watts
Compton
Wilmington (the port area)
...and many others...
South San Jose and East San Jose?? you gotto be kidding me. san jose is one of safest large cities in the nation. ocean side? were are you getting your information from? based off what? watsonville?? vallejo?? sounds like you been decieved..
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Old 10-13-2008, 11:40 AM
 
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you must be out of your mind if yu think theres no dangerous citys in california. dont let the palm trees and sunshine fool ya.
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Old 10-13-2008, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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This is the real list, just for Westcoast cities:

(Larger Cities 50k+: http://www.city-data.com/top2/c405.html)
1. Oakland, CA
2. Tacoma, WA
3. Stockton, CA
4. Richmond, CA
5. Everett, WA

(Smaller Cities: http://www.city-data.com/top2/c404.html)
1. Tukwila, WA
2. Emeryville, CA
3. Fife, WA
4. Union Gap, WA
5. Commerce, CA

Dont ask me how all those Washington State cities got on there, and obviously the city-data crime index is wrong because according to them, Sacramento is more dangerous than Compton
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Old 10-13-2008, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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This is the real list, just for Westcoast cities:

(Smaller Cities: http://www.city-data.com/top2/c404.html)
2. Emeryville, CA
This town happens to be one of California's fastest growing.

Emeryville is sandwiched in between Oakland and Berkeley. Its the "mall" for people in other 2 since those cities dont have malls. Oakland because natl chains are afraid and Berkeley because they dont want malls.

Also, while home to 9,000 people, nearly 30,000 people work in Emeryville.

Anyway, Id definitely live there. Once again, simply believing numbers doesnt really tell the whole picture.

This little-known animation studio is located in Emeryville..ever heard of them?








Emeryville skyline. Not bad for a city of 9,000 people.


Emeryville Marina



Emeryville has a very enviable location.
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Old 10-13-2008, 08:04 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Cle440 View Post
This is the real list, just for Westcoast cities:

(Larger Cities 50k+: http://www.city-data.com/top2/c405.html)
1. Oakland, CA
2. Tacoma, WA
3. Stockton, CA
4. Richmond, CA
5. Everett, WA

(Smaller Cities: http://www.city-data.com/top2/c404.html)
1. Tukwila, WA
2. Emeryville, CA
3. Fife, WA
4. Union Gap, WA
5. Commerce, CA

Dont ask me how all those Washington State cities got on there, and obviously the city-data crime index is wrong because according to them, Sacramento is more dangerous than Compton
thats not the "real list" of anything only the list according to citydata.com, most dangerous based on what?? they gotta be kidding me, oakland and richmond is the only places on that 5 city list that meets the criteria of being a few of the most dangerous in california. stockton, emmeryville (never even heard of it) tokoma etc...do not have high murder rates, therefore they not truly one of the most dangerous.

you can easily verify the most dangerous cities in california based on murder rates which is what really classifies a place as dangerous on this list rite here. (based on 2005) statistics, but they dont change much year to year anyway.

1.Compton, Calif.
2.Richmond, Calif.
3.San Bernardino, Calif.
4.Oakland, Calif.

2005 Murder Rate in Cities — Infoplease.com (highest murder rates in the country in order) you can re-check the list and see where the rest of the others tacoma, stocton,everett all place which is nowhere near the top.



these mentioned cities also place as one of the most dangerous natiowide not just in the state on the top 25. these the most dangerous in the state in 05' based on murder rates. that list rotates every year but always stays with in these cities.

heres another list that shows the consistency of the cities that i mention being on that list. measuring once again by the murder rate not crime rates, this list was 14 years ago

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...87/ai_15969801

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Old 10-13-2008, 08:16 PM
 
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Richmond~
Watts~
San Bernardino~
compton~
Oakland~(east oakland)
hunters point SF~

the most dangerous off homicide rate BOTTOMLINE. ask anyone who really is in touch and familiar and theyll tell the same.

worst of the worst in south california ~watts, compton, san bernandino, eastside l.a.

worst of the worst north california ~ north richmond, oakland, hunters point.

nowhere on the "westcoast" does any other citie aproach these cities in terms of murder and crime point blank. shoot trhough any of these places & you see why..

Last edited by willdowaldo; 10-13-2008 at 08:26 PM..
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Earth
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This is why the Inland Empire and Central Valley continue to be America's two top growing areas?
The poor being pushed out of L.A., O.C. and the Bay Area, that's why. Also, I'd take projections made by the Southern California Association of Governments with a grain of salt (those would apply to the IE, not the Central Valley). SCAG has a blatant pro-growth agenda and puffs up population growth numbers.

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Jobs are headed out east, negating your point.
Not exactly, and that is not even taking into consideration that public transportation to those areas is quite lacking, something to consider in an era when gas is going to only get more expensive. And even if the public transport infrastructure is there, there are all the problems caused by the foreclosure crisis. THAT negates your point.

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So unless we all have 500-600k to spend for houses (which not too many people do)
Home ownership in California has become something for the wealthy. It's disappeared amongst the remaining middle class. Not a big deal - that's how things have been in NYC for decades. Let's face it, there is no rule set in stone that one must live in a single family home.

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many still go inland for affordable housing and commute coastal.
Yes, the same people who have gone to South Central or Hunter's Point for "affordable housing", because Lancaster or Fairfield are even cheaper than South Central, Hunter's Point, or even West Oakland and Compton....
And who's going to want to live somewhere deep inland and commute coastal when gas is $7 a gallon? The drop in prices right now is only temporary, the calm before the storm be as it may.,

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Later, jobs follow...which is what started to occur prior to the meltdown.
According to a model that is probably not sustainable, considering rising energy costs and shortages.

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Plus the Inland Region ranks average in crime consistently...along with the Antelope Valley.
If this is the case, it's because some safe communities might balance out some extremely dangerous communities, much like L.A. itself. I don't know how much time you've spent in the Antelope Valley but what I've seen is not safe by any means, unless you compare it to Compton, Oakland or Detroit. However I am not denying that some areas of the AV might not be as bad as others.
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Old 10-14-2008, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM - Summerlin, NV
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South San Jose and East San Jose?? you gotto be kidding me. san jose is one of safest large cities in the nation. ocean side? were are you getting your information from? based off what? watsonville?? vallejo?? sounds like you been decieved..
Vallejo is deff one.
and Stockton, but i'd love to live in either one
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