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Old 10-04-2008, 07:24 PM
 
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Scraper, that's illogical man. I not talking about the current situation I'm speaking on the 'genetic holdback', it just isn't true. To honor this topic I'll just PM you my thoughts. I'll just say that Africa has or had the most natural resources but didn't use it like the Europeans.
It's not true? How do you know that it's not true, when studies have proven that it is, and when all the evidence indicates that it is?
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Northeast U.S.
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You think maybe it's all those fried twinkies and boiled goobers?J/K
No, but the fried twinkies and boiled goobers might have something to do with a different statistic.
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Old 10-04-2008, 07:52 PM
 
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How can "Liberalness", aka Socialism/Marxism in the modern usage of the word, create a prosperous state, when its built on stealing from Peter to pay Paul, and when it is based on socializing industries (Communism-Lite), on which the taxpayers bear the burden?

While a large percentage of Minnesotans may be socially liberal, the result of living in a relatively homogeneous place, made up of people largely isolated from the realities of more diverse multicultural hell holes, such as some areas of Greater Los Angeles, such views haven't made your state stronger or prosperous. If you think so, I'd really like to hear your take on why you believe that such ideology has been good for your state. I'm not looking for an argument, only your perspective.
I almost chose not to respond because it enables your disgusting worldview, so I won't attack your racism or warped knowledge of political ideas. Just know that there is more to Africa's problems than the people there and that liberalism does not equate to Marxism anymore than your political leanings make you a Fascist.
As for Minnesota, the whitest parts of this state are actually the least prosperous. The political foundation of this state and its people is common good. We could blame peoples' problems on themselves and let those problems become a larger social blight, or we can choose as a state to correct them. We understand that when people live together, other peoples' problems quickly become our own. We don't take from Peter to pay Paul, we take from Peter to pay for the schools and institutions that create the bedrock of this place. It hasn't hurt our besinesses or our families. We have one of the highest average incomes and we have more Fortune 500 corporations than all but four metropolitan areas. This political plan doesn't institutionalize business, it allows government to support business and to create incubators for entrepreneurs. When Minneapolis lost its milling, it could have been as bad as cars were for Detroit. It wasn't because there was a basis to create a diverse economy supported by educated workers. Government was the largest component of that base and it is why this is not a rust belt state.
This success was not demographically dealt to us. Kentucky is whiter, yet exceedingly less successful. Ditto West Virginia. The difference among states is between places with a me me me mentality and a we we we mentality. A poor, rural and illiterate black man in Mississippi is a problem to the entire state; and it is one that has been ignored there for 143 years. It really doesn't matter who lit the match when your house is on fire. Now, states like my own have been paying more to the federal government than we get in return. It goes to places like Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina--to subsidize their communal unwillingness to support themselves. That, sir, sounds much more like Communism to me.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/UserFiles/Image/Blog/ftsbs-large.jpg (broken link)
Nearly every state in the South owes us damn Yankees and California wackos a great deal of thanks. The last person to leave Michigan was trying to get their money back, don't flatter yourself Dixieland. That is why it is so funny to be when Gov. Palin tells everyone how she cut income and property taxes in Alaska, how she fought the size of her state government. It is real easy when you get back twice as much money from Washington as you pay to it. Minnesota may be relatively isolated from "mulitcultural hellholes", but where we face the problems that we have the South scoffs at them and waits for somebody else to fix them.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:23 PM
 
Location: PSL FL
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I have found the transition to texas quite difficult especially on an intellectual level. I keep trying, and trying to meet compatible professional people of my age group 20-35 and older. anyone... I have yet to have a well rounded conversation with anyone I have met so far. The only thing that woman seem to care about here is the family and having babies. Not too many career, ambitious, worldy women. If there any out there, please please tell where you are. so I can network and make some friends.
In the east coast, ( tristate area) someone can make new friends within days. I have been here 3 months -- haven't meet a soul. Why? is that?
Now this I TOTALLY agree with...I'm not in TX but I haven't made any true friends with any locals here and I've lived here for over a year. The only friends I have made are with other transplants/halfbacks and that is the honest truth. I have tried and tried to have conversations and friendships with ppl that have lived here their whole lives but the friendship is either one sided or shortlived.

I guess I would be considered a half northerner...13 years in IL, 14 years in FL, 1 year in NC....I don't believe I have a CHICAGO attitude, but probably do have and always will have the fast talking pace of a city girl.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:36 PM
 
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Ok, forget the PM.US regional affiliation, like racial affiliation has no impact on on how well your brain works/IQ levels/how smart you can be; your culture can get in the way of having a strong IQ if a person lets it (gangsta, thug, or stoner). Africa has a lot of tribes still, am I right, and just a different culture, right? How many tribal cultures are willing to just drop their traditions to join the mainstream "get money" culture of the West and other economic heavy-hitters in the world? I'm Black and nothing in my mind is holding me back so your theory is something my uncle's dog is trying to get rid of right now; my black family some of my friends (the ones who are Black) aren't drooling over themselves and are smart people. Africa is not a good place because there's a lot of corrupt people running around, they allowed other countries to come in and take what they want 'buffet style' because they had their "heaven and hell" right there. I saw a tape on Africa in middle school that mentioned how the Africans had no interest in the diamonds and other valuable stones and metals because it was no use to them (it was also abundant). Africa retains its tribal culture and Europe doesn't, I have no idea idea why but I do know that race has nothing to do with it but your culture of doing whatever does. Europeans spread the culture around the world Africa just chilled and lived life. Scrape, you are intelligent but you are using that only one way, look at the other side of things then come up with a conclusion. I say that because saying "Blacks are struggling because they have IQ problems" is basically, well you (if I say it then this'll get locked), that's like me saying white men can't jump but if dude works like me then we'll have equal ups.

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Old 10-04-2008, 08:50 PM
 
Location: PSL FL
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I can't believe this turned into a racial discussion! North vs South has nothing to do with race IMO, it has to do with peoples childish opinions of one another. I have met more "southerners" with NO hospitality in the past year than I have seen my entire life. No eye contact, no holding doors for me when I am struggling with a huge stroller, etc.

I have to make the first move with the greeter at Walmart, no joke.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:35 PM
 
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I think the perception of northerners as looking down on southerners has at least 2 components.

One, there may some truth that many northerners really do in some ways think their cultural attitudes are more sophisticated than southerners. Northerners tend to be less religious and more suspicious of religion and that adds to the idea that southerners are backward. Religious= Backward to a lot of people. So the less religious a population the more of them that will have a negative view toward areas that are more religious. Also while the income gap has narrowed some in recent decades, the north is still more wealthy than the southern US. Being wealthy tends to give one a pretty good opinion of oneself (with exceptions) and they tend think of others in a less than favorable light.

Two, some of the perception comes from southerners own inferiority complex. I have always felt that "southern pride", which is probably stronger than any other regional pride in America, masks a certain feeling of inferiority that southerners have about themselves and their region. Some of it may have very deep roots going back to the Civil War or even earlier. Getting your ass kicked in a war doesn't exactly help your self esteem. Being poorer doesn't help either. Others have touched on the educational system. While the south has some fine colleges and universities, the truly elite ones in this country are mostly in the north. Being well educated also tends to give one a pretty good opinion of oneself.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:42 PM
 
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Default uhhh because we are?

yes because we are... it's really that simple.
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My roommate is from Washington D.C. and he constantly compares Houston to Washington and say how Houston is backwards, our girls are "sticks???" compared to girls up north, you guys have better music,etc

Why do northeners feel like they are better than us???
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:45 PM
 
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Default What a load of crap!

Why would you take a dump in here with that crap?!
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The South ranks lower in education because about thirty percent of its population is black, which generally scores lower on standardized tests, as well as IQ tests.

In terms of southern whites, at least in Georgia, the population outscores whites in other portions of the country on the ACT and other educational measures. This isn't to say that all parts of the South are like this, only that the differences aren't as pronounced when the various differences in demographics are taken into account.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:48 PM
 
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Default lol you're a complete loon

You have stated no truth...none at all. Just your dumb bias opinion steeped in ignorance. Please
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I "have an Old South mind"? Explain what you meant by that.

This has nothing to do with stereotypes. Everything I have stated is the truth. Do you hate the truth? Are you so afraid of what someone thinks about you, or where you're from, that you let "political correctness", a form of Marxist brainwashing (this is documented), prevent you from speaking what your mind tells you is true?

Let me state that I am not an inbred yokel. I have three degrees, and I don't say this to brag, in fact I don't even have my diplomas framed, but only to get you to see that such stereotypes are outdated, while there are certifiable facts or generalities about different groups of people that have relevance in the modern time, or any time.
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