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Old 05-24-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I think if California were to do something like that, it should combine with Nevada and Hawaii. Both of those states have very close ties to CA.
Not for anything but why would those other states want California and it's over-regulation, over-spending, tax mentality, entitlement, union, dope store, green and illegal wackiness infecting their states? Just what would the other states gain from taking on some of that mess?

I think the original poster's question is a good one.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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California **may** end up dividing into 3 or 4 states if their budget deficit cant be solved.

That will change things up if it happens.
No, that isnt even a remote possibility.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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Not for anything but why would those other states want California and it's over-regulation, over-spending, tax mentality, entitlement, union, dope store, green and illegal wackiness infecting their states?
Yet our economy has grown by half a trillion dollars in the last 6 years.

No red state can say the same thing.

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Just what would the other states gain from taking on some of that mess?
Since both of those states get more from the federal pot then they put in-Id say a lot.

Especially since CA only gets back .79 of every dollar we send to DC.

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I think the original poster's question is a good one.
And the answer is No. There is no serious support for any such measures except among a miniscule minority.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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No. None will ever happen. There are, as far as I know, no examples since the Civil War in which the territory of one established state has been moved to another, except for a few tiny pieces of territory that were disputed as a result of geographical disruptions, such as the Mississippi River changing course. A few of those remain disputed and are not yet resolved. One was formally resolved in the 1980s, on the Missouri River near St. Joseph, Missouri.

Virginia split in the 1860s. There were territorial changes, but they remained fixed after statehood.

Just for supposition, California has 58 counties. If the it split up so each county got statehood, they wold collectively control the Senate.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Upstate Manhattan
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nope, hear it often on online communities in regards to NYC (and suburbs)and NYS and once in a while local politicians will mention the idea again publicly before the issue fades away again to online obscurity as a way to pass time.
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Old 06-01-2009, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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To answer the OP question: No.
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Old 06-01-2009, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Texas, according to its original statehood agreement with the United States, had an absolute right to split into as many as five states at any time it so desired.
Texas will never do this. If Texas split into five states, it would surely be able to wield more control in the senate, but then three (and possibly four) of the new states would likely turn blue. Think about it. Most likely the Valley would be split off as a separate state which would definitely become a Democrat stronghold. Southeast Texas, Central Texas, North Texas and West Texas would likely be the other splits, each anchored by one of Texas' large metros. Of those, I can only realistically see West (and maybe possibly North Texas) continuing to consistently side with the Republicans. The bulk of the 5 new states' population would be centered in the larger cities, and as demonstrated in the past couple elections, city-folk tend to vote blue. Central Texas, dominated by Austin/San Antonio, will certainly vote Democrat. Southeast Texas, dominated by Houston, will likely vote Democrat. West Texas will most certainly remain Republican, even with El Paso's influence, as other cities like Midland and Odessa are still so conservative. North Texas, dominated by Dallas and Ft Worth, is the only real wild card here. Dallas votes blue and Ft Worth votes red, and Dallas' 'burbs tend to be relatively conservative. It would be political suicide for the Republican leaders of the state (who still largely control the Austin statehouse for the time being) to allow the split.
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