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Old 02-16-2011, 09:16 PM
 
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I could go on and on, but you're just another OH blowhard who obviously doesn't get out much.
Yea, I don't get out much I've lived the past five years along the Colorado Front Range (where I've rarely, if ever, heard anyone speak of MSP). Before that, I lived for a year in South Florida (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP). And before that I lived for six months in Europe (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP).

Yea, I wish I could get out more.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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Yea, I don't get out much I've lived the past five years along the Colorado Front Range (where I've rarely, if ever, heard anyone speak of MSP). Before that, I lived for a year in South Florida (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP). And before that I lived for six months in Europe (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP).

Yea, I wish I could get out more.
Should I be surprised that one doesn't often hear about MSP? The vast majority of people on this planet don't sit around and talk about other cities or metropolitan areas. Honestly, how many people talk about their own city? I know when I'm out with my family or friends our conversation isn't about Charlotte, Denver, Atlanta, or any other city. People have better things to do.
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Old 02-16-2011, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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What, you mean to tell me that there are other cities in the Midwest besides Chicago and St Louis?
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Yeah, except again, I did NOT compare the two downtown areas. I stated pretty clearly that, imo, Minneapolis' downtown area is not that impressive considering the size of the MSA. I did not directly compare the two downtowns in any way, and in fact, I would agree that Columbus' downtown needs work. It is expansive, but not dense, and besides that, Columbus having half the metro size of Minneapolis should pretty much guarantee that they do not have the same level of downtown area.

And I would disagree that growth rates are similar in all those cities.

1990-2000
Minneapolis: +3.9%
Chicago: +4.0%
Indianapolis: +6.9%
Cleveland: -5.4%
Columbus: +11.8%
Cincinnati: -9.1%
Kansas City: +14.8%

2000-2009 (estimates 2001-2009)
Minneapolis: +0.7%
Chicago: -1.5%
Indianapolis: +3.2%
Cleveland: -10.8%
Columbus: +7.5%
Cincinnati: +0.5%
Kansas City: +8.4%

2000-2010 Census numbers that have come out so far.
Chicago: -7.4%
Indianapolis: +5.8%
Your method is flawed....you are using municipal city populations instead of metro populations. Cities that are landlocked like Minneapolis and Chicago can't grow nearly as fast, but their metros can. MSP grew about 16% from 1990-2000, and my guess is that it grew 12%-14% from 2000-2010. But what's the point of guessing -- we'll just wait for the Census results. Columbus, Indy, KC, etc. did not grow much faster than that metro wide.

I DO NOT understand why folks who live in cities with larger municipal populations ONLY refer to the municipal population when comparing cities, instead of the metro population. If you want to go that route, then Minneapolis city is HALF the population of Columbus, yet it has twice the downtown amenities.......so does that make it 4 times better? It doesn't work that way!
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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No, it really doesn't.
Great counterpoint. I have references, you give statements.
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Old 02-17-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Yea, I don't get out much I've lived the past five years along the Colorado Front Range (where I've rarely, if ever, heard anyone speak of MSP). Before that, I lived for a year in South Florida (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP). And before that I lived for six months in Europe (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP).

Yea, I wish I could get out more.
There's a pretty strong Colorado to Minnesota connection, so you must not talk about that kind of thing much. It doesn't matter though, just because you're ignorant to other places' existance or vitality doesn't mean it does not exist or is not vital.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:43 AM
 
Location: MN
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Yea, I don't get out much I've lived the past five years along the Colorado Front Range (where I've rarely, if ever, heard anyone speak of MSP). Before that, I lived for a year in South Florida (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP). And before that I lived for six months in Europe (where I never heard anyone speak of MSP).

Yea, I wish I could get out more.

TI talks about MSP in a song, he's from ATL
Lil Wayne mentions MSP in a song, he's from New Orleans
Kanye mentions MSP in a song, he's from Chicago
Nelly mentions MSP in a song, he's from STL

Just sayin'
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Actually, that surprises me!
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Old 02-17-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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TI talks about MSP in a song, he's from ATL
Lil Wayne mentions MSP in a song, he's from New Orleans
Kanye mentions MSP in a song, he's from Chicago
Nelly mentions MSP in a song, he's from STL

Just sayin'
Don't forget Soundgarden. "I'm lookin' CaliFORRRnia! And feelin' MinneSOOOta, oh yeah!"

"Outshined" - Soundgarden


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Old 02-17-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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TI talks about MSP in a song, he's from ATL
Lil Wayne mentions MSP in a song, he's from New Orleans
Kanye mentions MSP in a song, he's from Chicago
Nelly mentions MSP in a song, he's from STL

Just sayin'
No, she/he is basically full of it. I lived in Colorado too and I heard about Minneapolis a lot. I love music so I heard and read about Twin Cities bands all the time. The Minneapolis music scene was one thing I couldn't wait to experience before moving here.
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