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Old 10-31-2008, 07:30 PM
Status: "I hate living in Georgia!!" (set 18 days ago)
 
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i got indian cousin's with southern accents, jersey accents, british accents, french accents and indian accents...

its were you grow up. how is that hard to grasp?
That can be true in some cases. When I started college, I met a Vietnamese female who had an Australian accent because that is where she was from.
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Old 10-31-2008, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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you are where you were brought up. bottom line....

i, personally don'tn know any indians with indian accents...i and they're my friends and fanily.
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Old 10-31-2008, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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I know lots of Africans with southern accents. too. Should that surprise me?
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Old 11-02-2008, 06:14 AM
 
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That can be true in some cases. When I started college, I met a Vietnamese female who had an Australian accent because that is where she was from.
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you are where you were brought up. bottom line....

i, personally don'tn know any indians with indian accents...i and they're my friends and fanily.
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I know lots of Africans with southern accents. too. Should that surprise me?
Australia is different. After all you don't have such things as AAVE or Ebonics or Chicano accent there.
The US is a race conscious country and many accents are not defined by region, but also by "race" (in the American understanding of "race" of course).
The southern accent is associated with southern whites, just as AAVE is associated with blacks.
In the South, blacks and whites have been living side by side for centuries yet they developed different accents.

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but when an asian does it YOU NOTICE IT
Also check out post #18
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:01 AM
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Australia is different. After all you don't have such things as AAVE or Ebonics or Chicano accent there.
The US is a race conscious country and many accents are not defined by region, but also by "race" (in the American understanding of "race" of course).
The southern accent is associated with southern whites, just as AAVE is associated with blacks.
In the South, blacks and whites have been living side by side for centuries yet they developed different accents.




Also check out post #18
Well, yes and no. Part of it can be a mixture of education and how you're raised. I am black and I do live in the South and I don't have a southern or AAVE accent. I know a few blacks who don't have either accent as well who are living in the South. Part of it can be how you grow up.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:44 PM
 
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Well, yes and no. Part of it can be a mixture of education and how you're raised. I am black and I do live in the South and I don't have a southern or AAVE accent. I know a few blacks who don't have either accent as well who are living in the South. Part of it can be how you grow up.
Exactly. The Americans, especially those in the South, tend to move towards a certain General American accent.
I guess that's why hearing an Asian with a southern accent can be surprising to many people, because the younger generations in the South speak more and more like GA, so you'd expect that someone who has a strong southern accent to have grown up in an environment where people have had that accent for centuries, and they have been white. The "newcomers", whether they were Asians or even Whites from other parts of America, don't tend to pick up a strong southern accent, among others because of the associations it has.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:34 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Im originally Finnish and I mix em all

But southern accent is awesome.

Everybody with Johnny rebel

Three hundred thousand Yankees
Is stiff in southern dust.
We got three hundred thousand
Before they conquered us
They died of Southern Fever
And southern steel and shot
I wish there were three million
Instead of what we got.
I can't pick up my musket
And fight 'um down no more
But I ain't gonna love 'um
Now that is certain sure
And I don't want no pardon
For what I was and am
I won't be reconstruted
And I do not give a damn
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Old 12-03-2008, 12:51 AM
 
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I think in other areas of America outside of the South non-Anglos are more likely to pick up the regional accent simply because they are much less conscious about it. For example people in the areas of the Northern Cities Shift don't think they have an accent, so non Anglos in the areas pick up the accent, thinking that they're speaking Standard General American.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:37 PM
 
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Here are two posts that show that ethnicity often plays a part in the forming of accents in America:

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I noticed for myself how African Americans drop the "r" at the end of words. This is one common characteristic shared by Boston and parts of New England.
The mayor Quimby and Chief Wiggum analogy is a perfect way of comparing the speech of many white Chicagoans. Again, many white Chicagoans as well as Quimby and Wiggum had their speech inspired by New York. Specifically, the slurred "r" isn't common in white Chicago speech but sounds like that of New England.
The neutral thing only occurs in business, legal, and those kinds of fields. The Latinos, Italians, Middle Eastern folks, and far eastern Europeans sound very much like alike, if not the same. A lot of the "r" sounds are usually slurred and sometimes dropped. Again, this comes from New York. For those that know their history, immigrants funnel through New York. New York is their first city, then they move west toward cities like Chicago.
Finally, the younger generation is very diverse. A lot of the younger whites in "Generation Sex" sound very nasally and annoying. Obviously, the southern California thing has affected whites and some Asians (if you can imagine that). The heavy New York speech is still strong in Latinos, extreme Eastern Europeans, and Italians. That I think is nice because the "neturalization" or the annoying, irritating "porn star, Generation Sex" influence isn't present.
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While that is true, there are many variations in the accents of blacks from different areas of the country aside from the east coast. I didn't find this out until I went away to college and met other blacks from places like KC, Stl, and Cali. Each and everyone of them have their own accent and you can identify where they are from through the accents. I never realized that blacks from Chicago had a certain way of talking until I came home Christmas break and listened to people here talk after being at school for sometime and I was quite surprised at what I heard. Detroit and Chicago are two examples of varying accents among blacks. In Detroit they pronounce words like dog and coffee like "dowg" and "cowffee", and they pronounce their "r's" in contrast to words spoken in Chicago like "here" which is pronounced "heaa". Just to be honest even blacks down south speak differently among each other. Blacks in Atl sound nothing like the ones in Houstan. There are extremely identifiable accents as far as Chicago is concerned..blacks or whites
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Old 02-17-2009, 04:20 PM
 
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Without really reading most of the other post completely, it is possible that Asians have a southern accent. My father told me about how his town and other towns in the Mississippi Delta had Chinese people that were usually merchants. From reading about the history, many of these Chinese came by way of Cuba to work as migrants in the fields, but they weren't suitable for such work. So, many stayed and owned businesses in Mississippi. Some went to White schools and some went to the Black schools. There were Jews and Lebanese as well in the Delta in a similar situation. Here's some information in regards to this:Mississippi Chinese - Delta history - Bobby Joe Moon

Mississippi History Now | Chinese in Mississippi: An Ethnic People in a Biracial Society

John Jung's Storefront - Lulu.com (http://stores.lulu.com/chinesegrocery - broken link)

Somewhere Between White and Black: The Chinese in Mississippi | Asian American History | OAH Magazine of History (http://oah.org/pubs/magazine/asianamerican/vivian-wong.html - broken link)
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