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Old 10-19-2008, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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I never went to school here in the US but I have to ask. Don't the school teach you which states are southern, mid western, northern etc? OR ..is this just a matter of your own opinion? Because if that's the case it is no point debating about it. It would be like debating what taste better, Coca Cola or Pepsi?
I live in Memphis, TN. As far as I know Memphis is in the South. But according to a friend of mine it is not the south. So who knows whats right anyways?
Memphis is most definately in the South.
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Old 10-19-2008, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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Memphis is Southern (geographically and culturally). If you ask me, this map has an over-extended version of the South. West Virginia is certainly not Southern, nor is the top of half of Virginia or the entirety of Maryland. Move the line down to Tennessee across the NC/VA border. New Mexico is not the South either. Too much of Missouri is in "the South". I have been all over Missouri, and only the SW and SE are remotely Southern (barley...Southern Lite maybe..Geographically Southern, cultural Midwest). Texas and Oklahoma should be split, the Western portion of those states are definately West.

Also, you should divide the Pacific Coast/West away from the Mountain region, totally different areas in all aspects.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:51 AM
 
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Memphis is Southern (geographically and culturally). If you ask me, this map has an over-extended version of the South. West Virginia is certainly not Southern, nor is the top of half of Virginia or the entirety of Maryland. Move the line down to Tennessee across the NC/VA border. New Mexico is not the South either. Too much of Missouri is in "the South". I have been all over Missouri, and only the SW and SE are remotely Southern (barley...Southern Lite maybe..Geographically Southern, cultural Midwest). Texas and Oklahoma should be split, the Western portion of those states are definately West.

Also, you should divide the Pacific Coast/West away from the Mountain region, totally different areas in all aspects.
Some good points, but as always, I will disagree with that hardly any of Texas (except the trans-pecos) being in the "West" if by that designation it means a regional affiliation with the Rocky Mountain states or desert SW. There is just very little either historical or culturally in common with them. But I think I have posted that rationale quite a few times on this thread, so will refrain from typing it out again this time! LOL

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Old 10-20-2008, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A lot of people think my definition of the South is too far north.

A good way to think of it might be to imagine if the South became a country. Kentucky, the Ozarks, and West Virginia are Southern, but they're not Southern enough to join a Southern nation, so they'd end up in the Midwest or Northeast.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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A lot of people think my definition of the South is too far north.

A good way to think of it might be to imagine if the South became a country. Kentucky, the Ozarks, and West Virginia are Southern, but they're not Southern enough to join a Southern nation, so they'd end up in the Midwest or Northeast.
The Ozarks are not entirely Southern, and not nearly as Southern as Kentucky or West Virginia. The Ozarks have clear elements of Midwestern culture. My father grew up in the Ozarks (specifically Joplin) and he is a Midwesterner through and through, and never associates himself with the South. The Ozarks have strong Southern influences, but they are not the definitive South. Kentucky is Southern enough to be considered Southern, West Virginia has Midwestern and Northeastern leanings but ultimately leans Southern. The Ozarks are too complicated to classify really as being anything but the Ozarks.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:49 AM
 
Location: The Rock!
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The Ozarks are not entirely Southern, and not nearly as Southern as Kentucky or West Virginia. The Ozarks have clear elements of Midwestern culture. My father grew up in the Ozarks (specifically Joplin) and he is a Midwesterner through and through, and never associates himself with the South. The Ozarks have strong Southern influences, but they are not the definitive South. Kentucky is Southern enough to be considered Southern, West Virginia has Midwestern and Northeastern leanings but ultimately leans Southern. The Ozarks are too complicated to classify really as being anything but the Ozarks.

I agree totally. In hypothetical land...I think if something did happen to the Union, then many Ozarkers would side with going our own way instead of either Midwest or South.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:23 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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I agree totally. In hypothetical land...I think if something did happen to the Union, then many Ozarkers would side with going our own way instead of either Midwest or South.
I agree, and there is actually historical evidence proving your theory to be sound. In the Civil War, the Ozarks were fairly evenly divided between the Union and the Confederacy.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I agree totally. In hypothetical land...I think if something did happen to the Union, then many Ozarkers would side with going our own way instead of either Midwest or South.

So they're as much say, Iowa as Arkansas?
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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1. Northeast 2. Mid-Atlantic 3. South 4. Upper-Midwest 5. Plain States Midwest 6. Rocky Mountain States 7. SouthWest 8. West Coast
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:46 PM
 
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