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Old 10-14-2008, 06:50 PM
Status: "Summer!" (set 20 days ago)
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Billiam already addressed the point that none of Pennsylvania is southern, so I would just like to emphasize that. None, zero, nada, zip, etc. I don't know where that notion even came from!

Many people feel southern Ohio, Indiana and Illinois are southern, and I have been to all those areas and I agree that one hears a lot of southern accents there, but those are still northern states. Ohio has a border with Canada on the north, for Pete's sake (as does PA, BTW, in Lake Erie).

I don't know why all of Colorado isn't included in the west. That line cuts off a tiny eastern portion of the state, which makes no sense. If you are talking true "western", I wouldn't include any of N. Dakota as west.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Chicago metro
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I think the Midwest and Northeastern states should come together and just be call Northern states. Back in the day when many southerners said they was moving up north, they didn't say moving to the midwest or the northeast. The south is the only region that is together to make one huge region. Its not seperated into Southeast and Southwest like it is in Northern states like Midwest and Northeastern.
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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I didn't realize CUNY was that authoritative.
I'm also sure that the US Census Bureau couldn't have anything wrong...

http://74.6.239.67/search/cache?ei=U...icp=1&.intl=us

Lawrence County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My stats come from the US census bureau as well...but thanks for playing our game.
It looks like Wikipedia screwed up. According to the Census Bureau website Germans are 26.6%. Click on the county and the info comes up.
Pennsylvania by County - TM-PCT030. Percent of Persons of German Ancestry: 2000
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It looks like Wikipedia screwed up. According to the Census Bureau website Germans are 26.6%. Click on the county and the info comes up.
Pennsylvania by County - TM-PCT030. Percent of Persons of German Ancestry: 2000
So I guess the city-data link used wikipedia's figures?
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Old 10-14-2008, 07:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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This info isn't very accurate. I'm not Catholic but Louisiana has twice the number of Catholics it has of Baptists. We would never have had those liberal drinking and alcohol sales laws if the Baptists had ruled!
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:00 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Not everyone considers Texas Southern either(not that I agree). I guess it is all in perspective
most likely those individuals do not know enough about the state to make an educated decision, honestly. because as i stated before, there are so many areas of texas that NO ONE can say isn't southern with a straight face. Marshall, Texas comes to mind. that town and its history is as southern as the south gets.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:04 PM
 
Location: The Magnolia City
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Well, I appreciate your opinion Nairobi. I must say that your position is at odds with the Census' view of Oklahoma and Texas: www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf The regional designations appear to be assigned, not only by geography, but also by culture.

Oklahoma is best characterized as a Southwestern (read "Western South" as TexasReb accurately delineates) state with a lot of southern flair. It certainly could be called part of the "West South Central" as wikipedia designates: Image:Census Regions and Divisions.PNG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (<-----in case the pdf link does not load) The states that are undeniably culturally southern are as follows (most southern to least)

Alabama (Deep South)
Mississippi (Deep South)
Georgia (Deep South)
South Carolina (Deep South)
Louisiana
Tennessee
North Carolina
Arkansas
Kentucky
Texas
Oklahoma
Virginia (part of it)
Florida (part of it)
West Virginia (part of it)
well i have to respectfully disagree.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Elkins, WV
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This is how I see the four American regions.
I would cut WV into two pieces... Right below I-64 between Charleston and Huntington would be where I would draw the line between southern and northern.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Elkins, WV
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well to be fair, Appalachia extends all the way into Mississippi, but i agree that wv isn't the south. neither is virginia nowadays.
and to New York state... your point?
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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This is how I see the four American regions.
That seems fine.
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