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Old 10-15-2008, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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i guess your definition of clean is monochrome?

When I say clean, I don't mean for it to mean something else.

For example: NJ = Not clean.

How's that?

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Old 10-15-2008, 02:25 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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I would say any metro area WEST of Portland, Maine. IMO every city in this country is starting to look the same.
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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What about Dallas?!?!?!
I mean... its not like I would like to have it listed...
but in all honesty...
but We have a problem with this too...
Lack of architecture, and the works...
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:53 PM
 
Location: NJ
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When I say clean, I don't mean for it to mean something else.

For example: NJ = Not clean.

How's that?
But the question is ugly commercial development. Not cleanliness. And, parts of the Phoenix are clean, some are not. Just like NJ or any other state and city in the US.

You're finding offense where there is none.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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But the question is ugly commercial development. Not cleanliness. And, parts of the Phoenix are clean, some are not. Just like NJ or any other state and city in the US.

You're finding offense where there is none.
I can revisit several threads that were, in fact, very offensive about Phoenix in reference to how it looks or the fact that it is "sprawled", or ugly, or not a "tall" city. If you think ugly means commercial and residential development blending into the environment around it (mountains), then yes, perhaps it is boring, but ugly, no. I have visited many cities where neighborhoods and commercial developments are certainly not kept up and definitely ugly, but Phoenix would not be at the top of my list.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I can revisit several threads that were, in fact, very offensive about Phoenix in reference to how it looks or the fact that it is "sprawled", or ugly, or not a "tall" city. If you think ugly means commercial and residential development blending into the environment around it (mountains), then yes, perhaps it is boring, but ugly, no. I have visited many cities where neighborhoods and commercial developments are certainly not kept up and definitely ugly, but Phoenix would not be at the top of my list.
phoenix is the largest suburb in the united states. i can fall asleep just driving through it. "ticky tack" it is, and that's ugly. it's repeating the problem you can find in the inland empire (riverside and san bernardino).
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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phoenix is the largest suburb in the united states. i can fall asleep just driving through it. "ticky tack" it is, and that's ugly. it's repeating the problem you can find in the inland empire (riverside and san bernardino).
Well, let's not hope you fall asleep at the wheel then...
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Definitely Austin. =[
Every city in Texas outside of their downtown, basically.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:54 PM
 
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Atlanta has some suburban very ugly "strips" of over-development, without any regard or thought to the future, the past, just making money *now*, in the present. It's sad and pathetic.

The same can be said for Houston, Dallas, northern New Jersey, portions of Long Island, NY, Orlando/Tampa/Jacksonville, FL, Phoenix, Los Angeles, and Las Vegas, of course.
Those "over-developed strips" were pre-1990, guaranteed. Development since, for the most part, exceptions being mall areas, has been small commercial areas intermixed and surrounded by residential areas, not ten continuous miles of commercial development. Such was very common in the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
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Old 10-15-2008, 04:00 PM
 
Location: Hell's Kitchen, NYC
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Most of the Sunbelt cities. Funny how people keep moving there though. I guess people like that element of tackiness. IMO, in a way, it does eliminate an element of pretentiousness.
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